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Re: C&TS Comm. Has NO EXPERIENCE to estab. FRA ng

PRSL
December 11, 2002 07:04PM
The C&TS and the WP&Y can develop specifications on which no train will ever derail, primarily because nothing will operate because you could not afford it. The point is, it took decades of years of experience to set speeds and class of track for standard gauge lines that the industry could afford and be satisfied with the number of derailment and their costs. That experience has never been developed for narrow gauge, ranging from logging lines, tourist trains up to high tonnage passenger carrier like WP&Y. What fits the White Pass would shut down the EBT. Even the D&RGW’s own track standards cannot be used, as they never describe what is a failed tie. Will the narrow gauge want a plate or rail cut tie that is 41% deep into the tie to be a good tie? Maybe Yes! The track diamantes are entirely different with 36” gage and cannot be prorated down from Standard Gauge without experience and cost study to back it up. You cannot maintain to a “NO derailment” standard.
The FRA authority to request such list is questioned, even on a one-company property, as the law does not require it. The FRA only operated by the law decree. There is a on going “Emergency Order” to look for unsafe conditions but “Emergency Orders” are only legal on a temporary basic and the accident at Ely, Nevada is long past. There are no injuries or deaths happening on narrow gauge railroads to justify this continued government intrusion. The FRA costs to the C&TS are beyond justification and it will not be rebuilt into a gold plated cement tie tangent on three feet of ballast.
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Report On The Commission Meeting 12-09-02

roger hogan December 10, 2002 10:06AM

Re: Report On The Commission Meeting 12-09-02

Frank Martindell December 11, 2002 08:37AM

Re: Next time you are in Chama

Jay Wimer December 12, 2002 06:03AM

C&TS Comm. Has NO EXPERIENCE to estab. FRA ng spec

PRSL December 11, 2002 09:24AM

C&TS specific written standards

Mark Valerius December 11, 2002 10:35AM

Re: C&TS Comm. Has NO EXPERIENCE to estab. FRA ng

Paul D December 11, 2002 10:41AM

Re: Why not use D&RGW practice as standard? *NM*

Brian Barr December 11, 2002 12:07PM

Common Sense

Bob Keller December 11, 2002 03:42PM

Re: Much ado about nothing

Jay Wimer December 11, 2002 05:32PM

Re: C&TS Comm. Has NO EXPERIENCE to estab. FRA ng

Robby Peartree December 11, 2002 06:21PM

Re: C&TS Comm. Has NO EXPERIENCE to estab. FRA ng

PRSL December 11, 2002 07:04PM

Re: C&TS Comm. Has NO EXPERIENCE to estab. FRA ng

E December 11, 2002 08:00PM

Re: C&TS Comm. Has NO EXPERIENCE to estab. FRA ng

Gavin Hamilton December 12, 2002 02:54AM

The CTSRR and the FRA *PIC*

Jay Wimer December 12, 2002 05:29AM

what the heck,over...

jorge gigante December 12, 2002 09:32PM

Re: C&TS Comm. Has NO EXPERIENCE to estab. FRA ng

Linn W. Moedinger December 12, 2002 05:41AM

more like Fox in the Hen house

Rodger Polley December 13, 2002 10:31PM

Written stds aren't a bad thing

Steven Haworth December 12, 2002 08:46AM

Re: Written stds aren't a bad thing

Mik December 12, 2002 02:03PM

No argument there...

Steven Haworth December 12, 2002 02:11PM

Re: No argument there...

Mik December 12, 2002 09:03PM

Re: No argument there...

DvV December 13, 2002 05:08AM

The C&TS must have and use Trk. Specifications.

PRSL December 14, 2002 09:50AM

Re: The C&TS must have and use Trk. Specifications *PIC*

Greg Scholl December 14, 2002 11:41AM

Yes, and it will Endanger all NG lines,except WP&Y *NM*

PRSL December 14, 2002 04:36PM

Being adversarial to the FRA is a dead end street.

Kelly December 15, 2002 07:26AM

Why does this discussion of track get into boilers

PRSL December 15, 2002 09:14AM

Why does this discussion of track get into boilers

Kelly December 15, 2002 10:43AM

Re: Being adversarial to the FRA is a dead end str

G. W. Laepple December 15, 2002 10:25AM

Re: The C&TS must have and use Trk. Specifications

Robby Peartree December 15, 2002 08:30AM

Re: The C&TS must have and use Trk. Specifications

Earl Knoob December 15, 2002 12:54PM

Above Post Make my Case, but are off Que

PRSL December 15, 2002 03:56PM



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