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Re: OK, Since You Asked......

February 25, 2003 06:02PM
While I am not a big fan of the diamond stacks, I think they are historic to the Rio Grande. They were put on in the early 1960's, before they abandoned the freight operations out of Alamosa weren't they. If not for the Silverton train of the 60's, I doubt any of those 3 K28's would have survived today.
So, after the Rio Grande got out of the freight business we at least still had the Silverton train, although the engines had the diamond stacks awhile longer until Bradshaw bought the whole thing. So, I for one am thankful the Rio Grande kept the name on the tenders long enough to sell to an enterprise that wanted to keep the thing going for a long time. Rio Grande never made any big money with the train, but at least tried to keep it alive.
Look at the Southern #4501. It was a black engine for its useful Southern life, and as a shortline engine on the K&T. Then it was sold to a private individual who essentially later leased it to the Southern Railway. It operated from 1965-6 until around 1992 or so in GREEN livery, as the Southern wanted so much for it to be a PS-4 Pacific(they were green). So, while black was authentic, I am sure a lot of us overlooked that to enjoy the sights and sounds of seeing a REAL mainline steam engine once again in the east.
Now that its back in Chattanooga, it will likely be black when it is run through the shop again.
Sure, I'd like to turn back the clock to 1955 and see steam every day on the Norfolk and Western, with 6 passenger trains with J's, K's, and 6-8 freights a day with Y's, A's, and K's. But its gone...history...and you can't go back.
The ironic thing is, that if steam had lasted longer on mainline roads(say another 10 years), I doubt that the C&TS would have survived. It was only the fact that steam was scarce that so many fans helped to save it.
Of course to quote dandy Don Meredith(former voice on Monday Night Football) "If ifs and buts were candies and nuts we'd all be happy children"!
I miss Meredith. He made the show!
Greg Scholl
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K-28's and the Public Perception

John Hillier February 25, 2003 10:54AM

My take on the stacks

Greg Scholl February 25, 2003 12:11PM

Re: K-28's and the Public Perception *LINK*

John (K-36 487) February 25, 2003 01:34PM

Re: K-28's and the Public Perception

Charlie Mutschler February 25, 2003 08:30PM

A Rare Omission, Charlie....

Mike Trent February 25, 2003 08:50PM

Re: A Rare Omission, Charlie....

Charlie Mutschler February 25, 2003 08:57PM

not quite yet with the yellow....

John Vandenberg February 25, 2003 08:59PM

Fine Tuning......1949

Mike Trent February 26, 2003 06:51AM

Re: K-28's and the Public Perception

Mike February 25, 2003 10:37PM

Re: K-28's and the Public Perception

Fred February 25, 2003 01:53PM

Re: K-28's and the Public Perception *LINK*

John (K-36 487) February 25, 2003 02:15PM

Re: K-28's and the Public Perception

Jerry Day February 25, 2003 02:28PM

Re: K-28's and the Public Perception

Fred Beverage February 25, 2003 03:43PM

Keep it for that rainy day I'll be there! *NM*

K28DRGW February 25, 2003 11:17PM

It's History now.

William_Diehl February 25, 2003 05:36PM

Re: It's History now.

Fred February 25, 2003 07:04PM

Great News-- Bumblebee 473

Mike Trent February 25, 2003 07:31PM

Foreman Trent

Kevin Cook February 25, 2003 11:53PM

Re: Great News-- Bumblebee 473

Fred February 26, 2003 09:56AM

Re: Great News-- Bumblebee 473

Mike Trent February 26, 2003 10:04AM

Re: Great News-- Bumblebee 473

David Fluit February 26, 2003 12:22PM

Re: Great News-- Bumblebee 473

FRED February 26, 2003 03:53PM

Re: K-28's and the Public Perception

John Vandenberg February 25, 2003 08:48PM

Re: K-28's and the Public Perception

Fred February 25, 2003 09:39PM

Another way to look at it. *LINK*

Les Jarrett February 25, 2003 05:08PM

OK, Since You Asked......

Mike Trent February 25, 2003 05:18PM

Re: OK, Since You Asked......

Greg Scholl February 25, 2003 06:02PM

Ditto! *NM*

Mike Trent February 25, 2003 07:18PM

Re: OK, Since You Asked......

Jerry Day February 26, 2003 08:27AM

I am going to waffle on this one

Greg Scholl February 26, 2003 10:13AM

Re: I am going to waffle on this one

Jerry Day February 26, 2003 10:22AM

Some syrup on my waffles!

Greg Scholl February 26, 2003 12:12PM

Spring thaw

WP&Y Mike February 26, 2003 01:53PM

Re: Spring thaw *LINK*

Greg Scholl February 26, 2003 06:25PM

Re: OK, Since You Asked......

Jerry Day February 26, 2003 08:03AM

Re: OK, Since You Asked......

Jerry Day February 26, 2003 08:05AM

You're Right. Sorry.

Mike Trent February 26, 2003 08:34AM

No Problem

Jerry Day February 26, 2003 09:13AM

Historic Paint Schemes.

Chile John February 26, 2003 09:01AM

Re: K-28's and the Public Perception

Jerry Day February 25, 2003 05:55PM

Jerry, Jerry, My thoughts

K28DRGW February 25, 2003 11:45PM

Whatever

Scott Green February 26, 2003 12:21AM

K-28's and the Public Perception

John Hillier February 26, 2003 01:26AM

Loco Salvage in 1951

Charlie Mutschler February 26, 2003 07:11AM

Re: Wrecked Engines

Mike Trent February 26, 2003 07:13AM

Re: K-28's and the Public Perception

Hank Porter February 26, 2003 11:17AM

Re: K-28's and the Public Perception

eric bracher February 26, 2003 01:30PM

Re: K-28's and the Public Perception

Hank Porter February 26, 2003 02:04PM

Re: K-28's and the Public Perception

Matt Hutson February 26, 2003 02:28PM

We might all have to meet...

Kevin Cook February 26, 2003 04:19PM

How too meet and where?

K28DRGW February 26, 2003 05:11PM

Details details...

Kevin Cook February 26, 2003 05:21PM

Re: Details details...

Matt Hutson February 26, 2003 05:56PM

Re: Details details...

Greg Scholl February 26, 2003 06:30PM

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Matt Hutson February 27, 2003 05:05AM

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K28DRGW February 27, 2003 06:56AM

Re: Details details... *LINK*

John Craft February 27, 2003 07:20AM

Re: Details details...

Greg Scholl February 27, 2003 07:53AM

Re: what ever became of the D & S Railcamp?

Ron Keiser February 27, 2003 10:31PM

Re: D & S Railcamp good for profits.

PRSL February 28, 2003 07:13PM



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