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John West

June 14, 2006 04:32PM

I was there when the 484 almost rolled. But railroading is routinely done very safely in the snow, so long as it is done carefully. D&S is doing it regularly. Quite a few "snow" trains had been on C&TS on previous years without major problem. The causes of what happened to the 484 are avoidable.
The problem with winter operations in my view is more one of economics. Snow clearing is expensive, and the high tide of summer tourists isn't around to enjoy and help pay for the ride. Not to mention that on the C&TS winter is reserved for inspection and major shop work on all the locomotives. So I don't expect to see it happen soon.
But winter operations were a significant part of DRGW ng. operations, and recreating a bit of that history is not without some historic preservation value.
JBW

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Winter steam on the C&TS? PIC	John West	June 14, 2006 12:14PM
Re: Winter steam on the C&TS?	Greg Scholl	June 14, 2006 02:35PM
Re: Winter steam on the C&TS?	stuart olson	June 14, 2006 03:21PM
Re: Winter steam on the C&TS?	John West	June 14, 2006 04:32PM
Re: Winter steam on the C&TS?	Greg Scholl	June 14, 2006 05:31PM
Re: Winter steam on the C&TS? PIC	John Wilke	June 16, 2006 09:46AM
Re: Winter steam on the C&TS?	rick b	June 16, 2006 11:08AM
Re: Winter steam on the C&TS?	Scott Turner	June 16, 2006 12:53PM
Re: Winter steam on the C&TS? LINK	Greg Scholl	June 16, 2006 02:27PM
Re: Winter steam on the C&TS? LINK	Scott Turner	June 16, 2006 04:06PM
Re: Winter steam on the C&TS?	John Wilke	June 16, 2006 04:55PM
Re: Winter steam on the C&TS?	Philip H. Walters	June 16, 2006 06:48PM
Re: Winter steam on the C&TS?	Greg Scholl	June 16, 2006 07:50PM
Re: Winter steam on the C&TS? LINK	Scott Turner	June 17, 2006 11:59AM
Re: Winter steam on the C&TS?	Greg Scholl	June 17, 2006 03:04PM
Re: Winter steam on the C&TS?	rick b	June 16, 2006 07:45PM
Re: Winter steam on the C&TS? LINK PIC	Greg Scholl	June 16, 2006 07:59PM
Re: Winter steam on the C&TS? PIC	John Wilke	June 17, 2006 07:14AM
A toast to the guys who made it happen!	John West	June 17, 2006 08:13PM
Re: A toast to the guys who made it happen!	Andre Poniatowski	June 17, 2006 08:56PM
Re: A toast to the guys who made it happen!	John West	June 17, 2006 09:14PM
Why we ran the rotaries	John Bush	June 19, 2006 07:44PM
Re: Why we ran the rotaries	Dennis	June 19, 2006 08:58PM
Re: Why we ran the rotaries	Jeff Osborne	June 20, 2006 07:56PM
Re: Why we ran the rotaries	John Cole	June 20, 2006 08:26PM
Re: Why we ran the rotaries	John Wilke	June 20, 2006 09:06PM
Rotaries & Broken Windows	Jerry Day	June 21, 2006 07:45AM
Re: Why we ran the rotaries	John Cole	June 19, 2006 09:40PM
Re: Why we ran the rotaries	John Bush	June 19, 2006 09:48PM
Re: Why we ran the rotaries	gary danielson	June 20, 2006 09:43AM
Re: Why we ran the rotaries	Ken S.	June 20, 2006 07:12PM
Re: Why we ran the rotaries	John Bush	June 19, 2006 09:40PM
Re: Why we ran the rotaries	John E. Bush	June 22, 2006 05:49AM
Re: Why we rode and chased the rotaries PIC	dave grandt	June 26, 2006 09:25AM
Re: Why we rode and chased the rotaries PIC	dave grandt	June 26, 2006 09:27AM
Re: Why we rode and chased the rotaries PIC	dave grandt	June 26, 2006 09:29AM
And one for Carlos N.M. NM PIC	dave grandt	June 26, 2006 09:31AM
Well said, John NM	Scott Turner	June 18, 2006 08:05AM
Re: Winter steam on the C&TS?	John Craft	June 18, 2006 07:21AM
Re: Winter steam on the C&TS?	Jack Campbell	June 18, 2006 08:01PM
U Paint a great Picture Jack!! NM	tom casper	June 18, 2006 09:10PM
Re: Winter steam on the C&TS?	Scott Turner	June 18, 2006 09:15PM
Re: Winter steam on the C&TS?	Jerry Day	June 19, 2006 12:14PM
Rotary OM and the Friends	Mark Valerius	June 19, 2006 12:23PM

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