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Locomotives--the irony of 2007

July 06, 2007 12:06PM
I decided to start a new thread on the discussion of what locomotives should be restored. The previous one has gotted so convoluted, that just to read it all is a chore!

What I think is ironic in 2007 is that we may very soon have more locomotives runnable on (or around) the D&S and C&TS than there is business to justify them. If the C&TS gets 489 completed this summer, it probably has enough running locomotives to protect its existing business. The D&S is essentially in the same condition. That is good news for the railroads, but it presents a challenge to those of us who would like to see additional locomotives restored to operation. If the "business case" will not support additional restorations, then the funding will probably have to come from sources outside of the business case. By no means impossible, getting that kind of funding is a tougher nut to crack.

So, as has been so thoroughly debated in the other thread, prioritizing which other locomotives should (or can) be rebuilt should be done--then the process to secure additional funding for those restorations should proceed full steam ahead (excuse the pun). I happen to think, that in the C&TS's case at least, that it's in the works. The D&S is tougher, because being a for-profit private company, it really has no "preservation component," except for what can be revenue-generating. That, unfortunatley, has led to the derterioration (often beyond restorability) of a lot of equipmment left on that line from the D&RGW days. The 493, now rotting away in Silverton, is a good example. The freight and outfit equipment rotting at Tacoma is another.

Back to locomotives: It IS hard to prioritize. Personally, I would love to see the 463 back. It is the one of only two K-27's, and is a lovely locomotive, to boot. K-37's were the stalwarts of the line during its "latter-day" heyday in the 1950's and 1960's. 483 has a long history all over the narrow-gauge, and was the first C&TS locomotive to operated. It and 484 carried the line the C&TS first couple of seasons. Over at the D&S, the 473 is a favorite. It, too, has a long narrow-gauge history in numerous locales--it also is a "hoodoo," or hard-luck, engine. It deserves to run again.

Truth is, I love 'em all. For me, it is as much a nostalgic choice as anything. My "first" narrow gauge locomotives that I saw under steam were 473, 493 and 497. 476 and 478 followed within hours. My first ride behind narrow gauge steam was 478. 473 followed the next year. I saw 498 in Durango that trip--but it was not under steam, but would be a few days thereafter. My first K-36 that I saw under steam was 483, bringing the first C&TS train into Chama. 484 followed the next year. All these years later, I still look forward to more "firsts": 315 under steam, maybe 492 someday, maybe RGS 74, who knows?
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Locomotives--the irony of 2007

Wade Hall July 06, 2007 12:06PM

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Mike B July 06, 2007 12:26PM

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Fred T July 06, 2007 12:33PM

Working and preservation steam.

El Coke July 06, 2007 12:57PM

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Andrew Brandon July 06, 2007 01:13PM

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michael July 06, 2007 04:44PM

NNG: Santa Fe 2912

CharlieMcCandless July 07, 2007 06:23AM

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Rick Steele July 07, 2007 07:34AM

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Mike Trent July 07, 2007 12:43PM

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Rick Steele July 08, 2007 10:21AM

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Rick Steele July 09, 2007 08:13AM

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John West July 06, 2007 02:46PM

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Fred T July 06, 2007 09:33PM

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Fred Folk July 06, 2007 10:32PM

Re: Locomotives--the irony of 2007--463

Keith July 08, 2007 03:25PM

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Mark Valerius July 12, 2007 03:20PM

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Jim July 06, 2007 09:46PM

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michael July 06, 2007 10:57PM

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Ryan Shofner July 07, 2007 06:00AM

A note about the C&TS rotaries

Mark Valerius July 09, 2007 01:40PM

Rotaries, Asbestos, and Mechanical Condition

Dick Cowles July 09, 2007 03:51PM

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Mark Valerius July 10, 2007 07:19AM

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rod July 07, 2007 05:57PM

Big vs little-financing restorations

El Coke July 08, 2007 07:08AM

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Marty Knox July 08, 2007 08:18AM

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michael July 08, 2007 07:01AM

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Chris Webster July 08, 2007 02:16PM

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Wade Hall July 08, 2007 03:39PM

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