Welcome! Log In Create A New Profile

Advanced

Re: Great Link!

August 17, 2005 12:17PM
The railroad telegraph line between Antonito and Chama (and Durango)in the last years consisted of four No. 8 BWG galvanized iron wires. Two wires, originally W.U. No. 9 and RR No. 3 Morse wires, were paired and transposed for voice frequency operation (late 1930's) and used as the Dispatcher's telephone, with local battery telephones in several booths and buildings along the line (Lava, Big Horn, Sublette, Toltec, Cumbres Section House, Cresco, and the train order office at Chama. There were no voice or telegraph repeaters of any kind anywhere on these lines.
The Morse circuits worked fine over the long distances in the normally dry arid climate, as did the telephone line, as long as they weren't on the ground somewhere.
The other two wires on the Chama-Durango line were Morse telegraph wires, No. 108 (Western Union) and No. 1 (railroad wire).
No. 1 wire was used by the DS as a train wire until the dispatchers were moved out of Alamosa, then it became just a general purpose railroad message wire if the phone circuit went out.
Telegraphones (basically a "Crank & Holler magneto line) were connected (bridged) on the Morse wire No. 1 in local areas where they found use by the section forces for communication. Western Union maintained it's Morse connections in the Alamosa W.U. relay office until the railroad abandoned it in 1969, but telegrams were few and far between.
No. 1 RR and No. 108 Western Union wires originally went all the way to Silverton, but were abandoned west of Durango in the 1950's after snowslides wrecked the line badly south of Silverton. It was never rebuilt.
There was a single iron wire (No.01) that went from Alamosa to Santa Fe, terminating in SantaFe
W.U. office until the Chili line was torn up in 1940.
There were two Morse wires on the Creede Branch, No. 1 (RR wire) and No. 118 (Western Union). These wires terminated at Del Norte after operations were largely curtailed west of South Fork on that branch, and the pole line abandoned into Creede.
The Farmington Branch had two Morse wires, No. 1 and No. 2 from Durango, cut in at Aztec and Farmington, terminating at W.U. Farmington. These were abandoned some time'in the 1950's as well.
The pole lines all were originally built, owned and maintained by the Western Union. The dedicated railroad DS and message Morse wires were part of the right of way agreement for the pole lines. The W.U. got out of the business and "sold" the whole physical outside/inside plant to to the D&RGW Railroad (estimated late 1950's...for a dollar!). D&RGW Tel&Tel maintainers & the section lineman from Pueblo then traveled into the SLV and Durango areas priodically to maintain them.
Needless to say, maintenance suffered badly, and the lines were in really bad shape at the end.
Subject Author Posted

A great phone call

John West August 16, 2005 07:28PM

Re: Telegraphers bug

John Wilke August 16, 2005 11:17PM

Re: Telegraphers bug

John Cole August 18, 2005 07:51AM

Re: Telegraphers bug

John Wilke August 18, 2005 09:15AM

Re: Telegraphers bug

John Cole August 18, 2005 10:14AM

Re: Telegraphers bug

John Wilke August 18, 2005 11:41AM

Re: A great phone call *LINK* *PIC*

Gregory Raven August 17, 2005 08:42AM

Re: Great Link!

John Wilke August 17, 2005 10:24AM

Re: Great Link! *LINK* *PIC*

Gregory Raven August 17, 2005 12:05PM

Re: Great Link!

L. E. Trump August 17, 2005 03:24PM

Re: Great Link!

L. E. Trump August 17, 2005 12:17PM

Re: Great Link!

John Wilke August 17, 2005 12:28PM

Re: Great Link!

Gregory Raven August 17, 2005 12:36PM

Re: Great Link!

L. E. Trump August 17, 2005 02:11PM

Abandonment west of Chama

John West August 17, 2005 02:27PM

Re: Abandonment west of Chama

L. E. Trump August 17, 2005 02:44PM

Re: Great Link!

L. E. Trump August 17, 2005 02:53PM

Trainorders

John West August 17, 2005 03:09PM

Re: Trainorders

L. E. Trump August 17, 2005 03:40PM

Those wires *PIC*

John West August 17, 2005 04:31PM

Superb Shot there John

Greg Scholl August 17, 2005 05:21PM

Re: open wire carrier?

John Craft August 17, 2005 05:11PM

Re: another question ffrom me too!

John Wilke August 17, 2005 05:26PM

Re: another question ffrom me too! *LINK*

Greg Raven August 17, 2005 05:52PM

Re: another question ffrom me too!

L. E. Trump August 17, 2005 06:14PM

Re: another question ffrom me too!

Jim August 18, 2005 11:04AM

Re: open wire carrier?

Greg Raven August 17, 2005 05:59PM

Re: open wire carrier?

Greg Raven August 17, 2005 06:33PM

Re: open wire carrier?

Don Richter August 18, 2005 01:27PM

Re: open wire carrier?

L. E. Trump August 17, 2005 06:09PM

Re: open wire carrier?

John Craft August 18, 2005 08:04AM

Re: open wire carrier?

Philip Walters August 17, 2005 09:07PM

Re: Great Link!

Greg Raven August 17, 2005 05:41PM

Re: Great Link!

L. E. Trump August 17, 2005 06:20PM



Sorry, you can't reply to this topic. It has been closed.