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Grandfather's axe vs. New vs. Used!

August 08, 2000 09:03AM
It seems there are basically three choices here.
1.) Keep on fixing 'em, which will at some time include building new boilers, tenders, cabs and perhaps even frames. The advantage here is, the incremental cost is held down, as you are esentially buying a new locomotive on the installment plan. With proper budgeting and management, it is possible to gradually get ahead of the game using this plan. Sounds like the C&TS is taking the first steps in that direction with the #497.
2.) Buying a used engine from where ever. This choice is probably not very viable. The suggestion of Cuba and the Phillipines is out, as there are not any 3ft. gauge engines left that are even close to being big enough for the C&TS. Also, the engines they do have are so worn out as to require step 1 as well.
Mexican 3 ft gauge engines on display are small, plus you will never get the Mexican's to part with them. Their cultural heritage laws make it impossible to repatriate steam. Many have tried, all have failed. Central America has some 2-8-2's that might be close to a K-27, but they will also be difficult to buy and not big enough for the needs of the C&TS.
Columbia has some 4-8-2's which are possibly big enough, but several parties have tried to buy them over the years and have also failed. They are probably worn out and stripped of all useful fittings as well, by this point.
There are some big meter gauge engines in Brazil and Argentina, but now you are into serious rebuilding, although the idea of a 2-10-2 or 2-10-4 does have a certain appeal!
3.) Building new engines. I don't know if it was Coke or Earl that coined the phrase, "cubic money," but you'll need it for new construction. Until American railfans start acting more like their cousins in the UK (ie, willing to pay for stuff), then option #1 is our only choice.
Subject Author Posted

#476-Down for the count

El Coke August 05, 2000 12:40PM

476. The Best.

Mike Trent August 05, 2000 01:14PM

Re: #476-Down for the count

Boris Serena August 05, 2000 01:22PM

Tenders

Herb Kelsey August 06, 2000 01:06AM

Making them last "forever"

John West August 05, 2000 01:27PM

Re: Making them last "forever"

PMCassell August 05, 2000 03:08PM

What is the web address NM *NM*

Chris Whitmore August 05, 2000 08:12PM

New Engine?

Rick Steele August 06, 2000 06:38AM

Grandfather's axe vs. New vs. Used!

Michael Allen August 08, 2000 09:03AM

The Coker Postulate

El Coke August 05, 2000 03:41PM

42

Herb Kelsey August 06, 2000 01:13AM

Brevity is the soul of wit

John West August 05, 2000 05:03PM

Re: 476 down for the count

J. Johnson August 06, 2000 04:27AM

New? Old? Rebuilt?

John Vandenberg August 06, 2000 09:27PM

#223 analogy

El Coke August 07, 2000 06:50AM

George Washington' Hatchet.

Rick Steele August 07, 2000 07:05AM

Re: New? Old? Rebuilt?

Curtis S. Ferrington August 07, 2000 01:20PM

Ideas

Rick Steele August 07, 2000 08:00PM

Eureka replacement parts

Dan Markoff August 07, 2000 10:46PM

Re: Eureka replacement parts

Curtis S. Ferrington August 08, 2000 11:37AM

Re: Eureka original parts

Dan Markoff August 08, 2000 08:53PM

Re: Eureka original parts

Curtis S. Ferrington August 08, 2000 11:24PM

Re: Eureka original parts

Dan Markoff August 09, 2000 07:05AM

Re: New? Old? Rebuilt? *PIC*

Marion Thompson August 08, 2000 09:07PM

Re: New? Old? Rebuilt?

Curtis S. Ferrington August 08, 2000 11:40PM

Re: New? Old? Rebuilt?

Marion Thompson August 09, 2000 06:30AM

Re: New? Old? Rebuilt?

Curtis S. Ferrington August 09, 2000 10:19AM

Re: New? Old? Rebuilt?

Marion Thompson August 10, 2000 06:28AM

Seems like 485 is vacant on the roster! *NM*

Herb Kelsey August 09, 2000 10:14AM

Re: #476-Down for the count

Roper Rat August 07, 2000 01:36AM

Re: #476-Down for the count

Ken Q August 07, 2000 12:55PM

If it is the same Mr.Q...

El Coke August 07, 2000 03:09PM

Re: If it is the same Mr.Q...

Ken Q August 09, 2000 07:33PM



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