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Re: New? Old? Rebuilt?

August 07, 2000 01:20PM
Let me start with another quick example. The beloved Eureka (pauses for a moment lost in day-dreamland). That engine has had a rough service life. All new wood cab built by Dan, new lead truck (1880s design), new side rods (probably replaced same time as lead truck), and new reverse motion parts (more 1880s design). That's a fair portion of the engine that's not original, but I don't care, in fact nobody cares. It's a beautiful OPERATING engine. The only 99% original engine I know of (there may be more) is the Eureka's sister, Sonoma, which is mothballed at the Cal State RR Museum. Given the choice I would rather spend time looking at the Eureka.
The next question in mind is about preserving equipment for future generations. An engine kept in proper working order and maintained (replace parts as needed) will last effectively forever. One on display is literally rotting away. All metals are slowly degrading back to their most primitive form. The most pure steel made slowly pulls carbon atoms back out of the air as it progresses back to a state of raw iron. Even the metals in Stainless Steel are slowly pulling themselves apart. None of it will last forever. If you look closely at the Sonoma's iron drive wheel tires you'll find flat spots from sitting in one spot too long. The wheel center castings are probably warped as well. How much longer will it last?
Onto the topic of restoration. It's obvious by now that I like operating engines versus dead hulks so I won't say any more about this.
Onto the topic of replicas. I've spent many years studying the designs of Baldwin locomotives (mainly 3' narrow gauge of the 1874-1900 period) and came to a few decisions. I would never build a 100% replica because as it's a waste of time/money and too much of a headache. I would redesign my replica to use roller bearings on all axles without a second though. I would also hide roller bearings in the side rods and any other rotational / rocking motion pieces, including the valve gear assembly. It would just make a far more efficient engine and they can be hidden to the point it doesn't effect the physical appearance. I would also use mostly Lost Foam castings. Green Sand is too expensive thanks to environmental regulations and true pattern making in a lost art. Lost Foam costs MUCH less and is flexible enough to handle the most complex castings on the engines (the cylinder block) without any problems. Of course if you get within 5 feet of the engine you'll see it's not made of "proper" castings, but that can be covered up with a bit of work so that no one would know by looking at it. I would also have a whole new boiler designed for higher efficiency, while only keeping the outward shape. Basically, if it can't be seen I would modernize the design as much as I could. I would also use as many space-age metals and alloys as I could rather that plain iron, so long at it looks right.
That would make an engine of lower cost to build that a 100% replica and it would be much more fuel efficient. Both of which are good things to have in this day and age.
But that's just me & my opinions.
Cheers
Curtis S. Ferrington
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#476-Down for the count

El Coke August 05, 2000 12:40PM

476. The Best.

Mike Trent August 05, 2000 01:14PM

Re: #476-Down for the count

Boris Serena August 05, 2000 01:22PM

Tenders

Herb Kelsey August 06, 2000 01:06AM

Making them last "forever"

John West August 05, 2000 01:27PM

Re: Making them last "forever"

PMCassell August 05, 2000 03:08PM

What is the web address NM *NM*

Chris Whitmore August 05, 2000 08:12PM

New Engine?

Rick Steele August 06, 2000 06:38AM

Grandfather's axe vs. New vs. Used!

Michael Allen August 08, 2000 09:03AM

The Coker Postulate

El Coke August 05, 2000 03:41PM

42

Herb Kelsey August 06, 2000 01:13AM

Brevity is the soul of wit

John West August 05, 2000 05:03PM

Re: 476 down for the count

J. Johnson August 06, 2000 04:27AM

New? Old? Rebuilt?

John Vandenberg August 06, 2000 09:27PM

#223 analogy

El Coke August 07, 2000 06:50AM

George Washington' Hatchet.

Rick Steele August 07, 2000 07:05AM

Re: New? Old? Rebuilt?

Curtis S. Ferrington August 07, 2000 01:20PM

Ideas

Rick Steele August 07, 2000 08:00PM

Eureka replacement parts

Dan Markoff August 07, 2000 10:46PM

Re: Eureka replacement parts

Curtis S. Ferrington August 08, 2000 11:37AM

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Dan Markoff August 08, 2000 08:53PM

Re: Eureka original parts

Curtis S. Ferrington August 08, 2000 11:24PM

Re: Eureka original parts

Dan Markoff August 09, 2000 07:05AM

Re: New? Old? Rebuilt? *PIC*

Marion Thompson August 08, 2000 09:07PM

Re: New? Old? Rebuilt?

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Re: New? Old? Rebuilt?

Marion Thompson August 09, 2000 06:30AM

Re: New? Old? Rebuilt?

Curtis S. Ferrington August 09, 2000 10:19AM

Re: New? Old? Rebuilt?

Marion Thompson August 10, 2000 06:28AM

Seems like 485 is vacant on the roster! *NM*

Herb Kelsey August 09, 2000 10:14AM

Re: #476-Down for the count

Roper Rat August 07, 2000 01:36AM

Re: #476-Down for the count

Ken Q August 07, 2000 12:55PM

If it is the same Mr.Q...

El Coke August 07, 2000 03:09PM

Re: If it is the same Mr.Q...

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