Standard gauge flats usage is described in a tape recording interview with Bill Huston who had a summer home just south of the boy scout camp. He descrided how some were black he said were LV, some red car of PRR and RDG ownership. When they loaded the SG cars with proups, they did not use spacers under the piles. They were coupled with links and when asked how they maintained air brakes usage, he immediately said they had "goose necks hoses" which were short hose that had clad hands on both end that extended the hose to hold air. Interviews with several other locals later confirmed that SG flats were used and interchanged to the EBT on the track connection behind the Coal Tripple. At the same time, SG gons were delivered to Three Springs junk yard and loaded by hand by a Russian who was strong enough to throw a model T motor (with out transmission) up into the car.