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Re: Later Years

Earl
September 22, 2004 10:36AM
Josh:
I think you are essentially correct. As business declined in the 1960's engines were set aside when flue time expired. Some engines, such as 482 and 489 came down from Salida in 1956 with fairly fresh overhauls on them. When the flue time ran out, they were parked.
It is entirely too easy to study this to death. My opinion is that the retirements of certain engines were based on when work was needed, budget matters and what needed the least amount of work to get back in service. In about 1962-3 487 got new tires, flues, etc. Why it instead of something else? Well, perhaps because it was running and 482 wasn't. The longer an engine sits, the more parts get liberated off it for other engines. The policy of "what's easiest and cheapest" always wins the battle over "well that was a better engine than this one".
The deal about "good engines versus bad engines" is a very opinionated one. Talk to 10 engineers and you will find 10 different opinions. I liked engines that others didn't and didn't care for others that others liked. Mr Coker liked 488, I didn't. It's throttle wouldn't stay set, its valve gear wasn't square, it just didn't feel right to me. I loved 489. It did everything right for me. It was square as a die, great throttle, rode well, etc etc.
Also opinions on motive power varied from location to location. Alamosa guys had no opinion on Mudhens. They never ran them there. Durango guys didn't care for them because they were used when a 470 wasn't available. Montrose guys loved Mudhens. Everyone appeared to like 480's. Fireman liked 490's because they steamed so well. While 470's rode better than enything else, most guys preferred to fire bigger engines than the 470's. It was a very subjective thing, that we could debate forever.
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How hammered IS that locomotive ?

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Re: How hammered IS that locomotive ?

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Re: How hammered IS that locomotive ? *PIC*

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Re: How hammered IS that locomotive ?

Smokebox September 17, 2004 04:15AM

This One... *PIC*

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Re: This One...

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Re: This One...Fido? *PIC*

Smokebox September 19, 2004 08:34AM

Re: How hammered IS that locomotive ?

Paul Hagglund September 18, 2004 11:07AM

Hammered locomotives

El Coke September 18, 2004 04:19PM

poor maintenance?

WP&Ymike September 18, 2004 05:11PM

Re: poor maintenance?

Paul Hagglund September 18, 2004 08:28PM

Re: poor maintenance?

fritz Klinke September 18, 2004 11:39PM

Re: poor maintenance and 483

El Coke September 19, 2004 02:15PM

Re: poor maintenance and 483

Paul Hagglund September 19, 2004 07:23PM

lemons

El Coke September 20, 2004 09:48AM

Re: lemons

Paul Hagglund September 20, 2004 07:14PM

Disliked engines

El Coke September 20, 2004 08:41PM

Re: WP&Y K-28s

WP&Ymike September 20, 2004 09:01PM

454 & the C-21's

Kevin Cook September 21, 2004 08:57AM

Bob, the C-21, and the Silverton

Josh McNeal September 21, 2004 11:17AM

Re: lemons

John Templeton-Chama Station Agent September 21, 2004 07:46AM

Re: lemons

Paul Hagglund September 21, 2004 06:26PM

485 , 490 , and 496.

El Coke September 21, 2004 07:13PM

Re: 485 , 490 , and 496.

Paul Hagglund September 21, 2004 08:11PM

Later Years

Josh McNeal September 21, 2004 08:31PM

Re: Later Years

Earl September 22, 2004 10:36AM

Re: Later Years

Josh McNeal September 22, 2004 12:07PM

Re: Later Years

Paul Hagglund September 22, 2004 05:52PM



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