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Kevin Cook

September 21, 2004 08:57AM

Coker,
Could the fact that these engines were used on the Cima Hill where the rail was still light be a factor? Even if they were not the best of steamers they were among the biggest allowed on that line. Maybe they traded off the poor steaming for greater tractive effort over the 268 and 278.
I forgot the actual srapping date for the C-21's but they didn't last long after the Narrow Gauge Circle was broken with the Water Shed Project up there.
Too bad Bob Richardson didn't get one of the C-21's. He told me the story years ago of negociating for one and they scrapped it from under him during negociations. He was bitter for a long while after being that.
Kevin Cook

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How hammered IS that locomotive ?	El Coke	September 16, 2004 06:46PM
Re: How hammered IS that locomotive ?	Phil Reader	September 16, 2004 10:01PM
Re: How hammered IS that locomotive ? PIC	Ed Kelley	September 16, 2004 11:14PM
Re: How hammered IS that locomotive ?	Smokebox	September 17, 2004 04:15AM
This One... PIC	Taylor Rush	September 17, 2004 08:26AM
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Re: This One...	C. Wallace	September 17, 2004 07:29PM
Re: This One...Fido? PIC	Smokebox	September 19, 2004 08:34AM
Re: How hammered IS that locomotive ?	Paul Hagglund	September 18, 2004 11:07AM
Hammered locomotives	El Coke	September 18, 2004 04:19PM
poor maintenance?	WP&Ymike	September 18, 2004 05:11PM
Re: poor maintenance?	Paul Hagglund	September 18, 2004 08:28PM
Re: poor maintenance?	fritz Klinke	September 18, 2004 11:39PM
Re: poor maintenance and 483	El Coke	September 19, 2004 02:15PM
Re: poor maintenance and 483	Paul Hagglund	September 19, 2004 07:23PM
lemons	El Coke	September 20, 2004 09:48AM
Re: lemons	Paul Hagglund	September 20, 2004 07:14PM
Disliked engines	El Coke	September 20, 2004 08:41PM
Re: WP&Y K-28s	WP&Ymike	September 20, 2004 09:01PM
454 & the C-21's	Kevin Cook	September 21, 2004 08:57AM
Bob, the C-21, and the Silverton	Josh McNeal	September 21, 2004 11:17AM
Re: lemons	John Templeton-Chama Station Agent	September 21, 2004 07:46AM
Re: lemons	Paul Hagglund	September 21, 2004 06:26PM
485 , 490 , and 496.	El Coke	September 21, 2004 07:13PM
Re: 485 , 490 , and 496.	Paul Hagglund	September 21, 2004 08:11PM
Later Years	Josh McNeal	September 21, 2004 08:31PM
Re: Later Years	Earl	September 22, 2004 10:36AM
Re: Later Years	Josh McNeal	September 22, 2004 12:07PM
Re: Later Years	Paul Hagglund	September 22, 2004 05:52PM

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