Re: IMHO, "Let Bygones be Bygones . . . "
| December 05, 2022 12:47PM |
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Russo Loco Wrote:
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> Unfortunately the revived SL&RG will need to
> make money to survive, Youse Guys -
>
> . . . and adding the expense of a facility in
> Alamosa to transfer perlite (or whatever) from
> narrow-gauge to standard-gauge cars wouldn't
> add much to the bottom line.
Rader Sidetrack Wrote:
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> I think both Dave's and my posts were intended
> to be fanciful,
but I don't know why there
> would need to to be a freight "transfer" from nar-
> row gauge to standard gauge cars. The point
> of 3 rails is that (with an idler car) both standard
> gauge and narrow gauge equipment could be in
> the same train, similar to ye olden days . . .
Ah yes, ye good olde 'olden days' -
But now you're implying that the SL&RG should purchase and maintain at least one narrow-gauge locomotive (presumably steam) to justify the re-installation of the third rail and the use of at least one idler car, as in this Tom Gildersleeve photo from 1960:*
Photo copyright © 1960, 2005 by Thomas H. Gildersleeve - All Rights Reserved.
Either that or give the C&TS trackage rights from Antonito to Alamosa so that one of their narrow-gauge engines could be used. But IIRC the C&TS is not exactly over-supplied with operable steam locomotives at present, and I'm not sure if either of their narrow-gauge diseasels is up to the task even though the loads would be hauled on a slight downgrade and the empties uphill.
My humble opinion is that we should be satisfied with the movies and photos of the three-rail lines that survive from the Rio Grande days, and focus our energy and finances on preserving and restoring as much as possible of the equipment and facilities that remain.
- El Abuelo Histœrico, Greengo y Curmudgeoño de los Locomoturas Viejos y Verdes,
aka Der Grossväterlich DünkelOlivGrünDampfKesselMantelLiebHabender
* For 'The Rest of the Story' of #491's day hauling and switching standard gauge cars from Alamosa to Antonito see [ngdiscussion.net].
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> Unfortunately the revived SL&RG will need to
> make money to survive, Youse Guys -
>
> . . . and adding the expense of a facility in
> Alamosa to transfer perlite (or whatever) from
> narrow-gauge to standard-gauge cars wouldn't
> add much to the bottom line.
Rader Sidetrack Wrote:
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> I think both Dave's and my posts were intended
> to be fanciful,
but I don't know why there> would need to to be a freight "transfer" from nar-
> row gauge to standard gauge cars. The point
> of 3 rails is that (with an idler car) both standard
> gauge and narrow gauge equipment could be in
> the same train, similar to ye olden days . . .
Ah yes, ye good olde 'olden days' -
But now you're implying that the SL&RG should purchase and maintain at least one narrow-gauge locomotive (presumably steam) to justify the re-installation of the third rail and the use of at least one idler car, as in this Tom Gildersleeve photo from 1960:*
Photo copyright © 1960, 2005 by Thomas H. Gildersleeve - All Rights Reserved.
Either that or give the C&TS trackage rights from Antonito to Alamosa so that one of their narrow-gauge engines could be used. But IIRC the C&TS is not exactly over-supplied with operable steam locomotives at present, and I'm not sure if either of their narrow-gauge diseasels is up to the task even though the loads would be hauled on a slight downgrade and the empties uphill.
My humble opinion is that we should be satisfied with the movies and photos of the three-rail lines that survive from the Rio Grande days, and focus our energy and finances on preserving and restoring as much as possible of the equipment and facilities that remain.
- El Abuelo Histœrico, Greengo y Curmudgeoño de los Locomoturas Viejos y Verdes,
aka Der Grossväterlich DünkelOlivGrünDampfKesselMantelLiebHabender
* For 'The Rest of the Story' of #491's day hauling and switching standard gauge cars from Alamosa to Antonito see [ngdiscussion.net].
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