Re: A Real Flanger Run -OR- Flanger+Spreader Cumbres Turn
| November 04, 2013 04:52PM |
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rehunn Wrote:
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> Greg, very real points on the downsides,
> as to $200 a head for a flanger, be a no-
> brainer. It might end up being more just
> because of the one-off costs to John but
> it'd still be a bargain. I'd bet that 50 or so
> of us could make it to Chama for such a trip.
Well, Rich -
For the ONE-engine, NO-chase-train, NON-authentic Green-Jacket #489 Commemoration (NOT re-enactment) in May, 2010, we asked $215 for boxcar tickets and $250 for caboose tickets (including dinner at Osier) - with a $20 discount for members of the three groups who helped market the trip in their newsletters.* Even with some sizable donations for the green paint and a lot of volunteer labor, I ended up a few hundred in the hole with IIRC 36 passengers.** If you're going to put together an authentic-looking flanger run (or rotary run in a few years), or an authentic-looking re-creation of a non-flanging Cumbres Turn like those Tom Gildersleeve shot in March, 1963, you're either going to need a chase train or to somehow make sure that most of the chasers contribute to the trip ...*** With two engines (plus the flanger & spreader crews if it's more than just a Cumbres Turn) I'm guessing you're looking at more like $400 each for fifty participants - probably even more.
- Russ
* The Friends of the C&TS, The Golden Gate RR Museum, and The Rocky Mountain RR Club.
** I'm NOT complaining - Mother Nature gave us BEAUTIFUL day, and I'd do it again in a heartbeat with #315 or #463 in a Moffat Green jacket!
*** Brauchen Wir ein Plandampf Hier?? - see [ngdiscussion.net] et seq, above.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/04/2013 05:02PM by Russo Loco.
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> Greg, very real points on the downsides,
> as to $200 a head for a flanger, be a no-
> brainer. It might end up being more just
> because of the one-off costs to John but
> it'd still be a bargain. I'd bet that 50 or so
> of us could make it to Chama for such a trip.
Well, Rich -
For the ONE-engine, NO-chase-train, NON-authentic Green-Jacket #489 Commemoration (NOT re-enactment) in May, 2010, we asked $215 for boxcar tickets and $250 for caboose tickets (including dinner at Osier) - with a $20 discount for members of the three groups who helped market the trip in their newsletters.* Even with some sizable donations for the green paint and a lot of volunteer labor, I ended up a few hundred in the hole with IIRC 36 passengers.** If you're going to put together an authentic-looking flanger run (or rotary run in a few years), or an authentic-looking re-creation of a non-flanging Cumbres Turn like those Tom Gildersleeve shot in March, 1963, you're either going to need a chase train or to somehow make sure that most of the chasers contribute to the trip ...*** With two engines (plus the flanger & spreader crews if it's more than just a Cumbres Turn) I'm guessing you're looking at more like $400 each for fifty participants - probably even more.
- Russ
* The Friends of the C&TS, The Golden Gate RR Museum, and The Rocky Mountain RR Club.
** I'm NOT complaining - Mother Nature gave us BEAUTIFUL day, and I'd do it again in a heartbeat with #315 or #463 in a Moffat Green jacket!
*** Brauchen Wir ein Plandampf Hier?? - see [ngdiscussion.net] et seq, above.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/04/2013 05:02PM by Russo Loco.
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