Thanks Jim, I was mistaken as to when the levers got mixed up. Jim makes the comment about designing the brake rigging and having to avoid all of the other obstructions under a car like truss rods, needle beams and brake piping. When we did caboose 3 and I post this not to change the subject of the thread, but as an example that others restoring extant equipment anywhere face, Jim did the brake rigging and I did the piping. Do to our schedules of availability being a little disjointed, I did the piping first which was probably backwards. I was very conscious of keeping the piping clear of the areas he would need to install levers and rods in, so used a fair number of 90deg ells in the piping to try to keep the piping up out of the way. Not sure how well I succeeded, but Jim was able to make it work. While most cars have relatively few joints in the brake line which is desirable from a future potential leakage standpoint, my job with a number of elbows was not entirely without precedence of a car plumbed many decades ago. The example I am thinking of is the West Side Coffin tank car at SVRy which has a good many elbows in the train line.