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Re: No consideration of the piers, abutments and foundations! Re: Lobato Trestle Report

September 02, 2010 09:24PM avatar
Dave Boyer Wrote:
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>> The "superstructure" are the spans between piers.
>> HDR did a structural analysis of these spans and,
>> even though HDR ignored the dynamic loading from
>> the locomotive drivers and cars, the spans still
>> failed the analysis.
>
> A scary conclusion. The fire may have saved the RR
> from a trestle collapse with engine and
> passengers. They may have dodged the proverbial
> bullet.

Dave, "failed the analysis" does not mean that a collapse was imminent. While iron railroad bridges are outside my areas of expertise, the report seems to be saying that the loadings applied by C&TS trains were causing the bridge to wear out prematurely. This strikes me as somewhat ironic because they are talking about a 100+ year bridge!

However, I'm a little disappointed to read this:
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Second paragraph of "Rating Results", on page 7 of the report
Per information provided by the Cumbres and Toltec Scenic Railroad two (2) trains per day, one in each direction, pass across the bridge at a maximum speed of 8 MPH. The train consists of a K36 or K37 coal fired steam engine locomotive, tender and eight (8) viewing cars with a maximum capacity of 44 passengers per car.

Based upon this, HDR did not consider light helper moves, Cinder the Bear specials, photo freights (e.g. Chama Steam), nor work extras.

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Chris Webster
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Lobato Trestle Report

Roger Hogan September 02, 2010 05:57PM

No consideration of the piers, abutments and foundations! Re: Lobato Trestle Report

Chris Webster September 02, 2010 08:09PM

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Greg Raven September 02, 2010 08:12PM

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Dave Boyer September 02, 2010 08:26PM

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Greg Raven September 02, 2010 08:34PM

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Dave Boyer September 02, 2010 08:53PM

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Chris Webster September 02, 2010 09:24PM

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AGreene September 02, 2010 09:28PM

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Dave Boyer September 02, 2010 09:33PM

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rdmstr September 02, 2010 10:30PM

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Abqfoamer September 03, 2010 02:07PM

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Chris Webster September 03, 2010 04:02PM

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Abqfoamer September 03, 2010 10:49PM

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Chris Webster September 06, 2010 09:29AM

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El Nehi September 03, 2010 11:37AM

Re: No consideration of the piers, abutments and foundations! Re: Lobato Trestle Report

Chris Webster September 03, 2010 04:15PM

Thank you for posting this...

Samart September 03, 2010 07:08AM

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Rich Murray September 03, 2010 08:53AM

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Abqfoamer September 04, 2010 03:58PM

PRICE QUESTION:

Ron Keagle September 05, 2010 11:11AM

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