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Re: Jack, Please Don't Drop Out On Us

December 18, 2006 12:54PM
I think that Jack Campbell’s insight to the shop workings and requirements for a better equipped facility in the future is something the "new" commission should take a look at sooner than later. Setting the bi state politics aside for a moment I think the solution is obvious to anyone interested in operating the RR in a "for profit" or even break even mode. The commission and states did have an "understanding" of how all this is supposed to work. I don’t think I will get a lot of argument that there will always be some state/ federal/grant subsidies required for capital improvements, locomotive rehabilitation and ROW maintenance. The "deal" has always been that the operating revenue would cover the operating expenses and also some portion of the maintenance.
Looking at the D&S, the C&TS needs a centralized locomotive/ car repair shop on the level that exists in Durango. It doesn’t make any economic sense for the D&S to have shops in both Durango and Silverton nor does it make good business sense for the C&TS to duplicate shops at each end of the line. It really gets back to the Commission having a long term economic plan for the RR as a business (as opposed to a pork barrel). If the revenue is going to be grown to get back to the level of the late 1990’s (and more) then the shop situation will have to be addressed as part of this business plan.
At the end of the day I think Jack’s plan for a state of the art shop facility on the old lumber mill site near the wye in Chama will prove to be the most cost effective and efficient way to deal with the future maintenance. This location avoids the whole historic alteration issues with the current yard and makes sense from an operating standpoint as the base for all heavy maintenance. Whether is it is a roundhouse with turntable or a more modern steel shell building is not the issue, efficiency is the key to a shop that can handle the expanding maintenance needs for many years to come. Finding the political will and having a business plan that supports a single centralized and modern shop facility in Chama is the issue. My gut tells me that over the long haul a new shop in Chama will pay back its investment many times over in improved overall efficiency.
Rod
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C&TS new designation

Rob Lenicheck December 15, 2006 12:17PM

Re: C&TS new designation

Steve stockham December 15, 2006 01:04PM

Where did you hear this? *NM*

Greg Scholl December 15, 2006 01:09PM

Found it-Here's the link *LINK*

Greg Scholl December 15, 2006 01:16PM

C&TS renamed? Easy boys...

Mark Valerius December 15, 2006 01:22PM

Re: C&TS renamed? Easy boys...

John West December 15, 2006 01:42PM

Re: C&TS renamed? Easy boys...

John Bush December 15, 2006 02:52PM

Re: C&TS renamed? Relax

Kevin December 15, 2006 03:17PM

Re: C&TS renamed? Relax

Ed Stabler December 15, 2006 03:38PM

C&TS as history

John West December 15, 2006 03:37PM

A Cumbersome handle.

El Coke December 16, 2006 09:39PM

Re: A Cumbersome handle.

John Cole December 17, 2006 08:00AM

Re: A Cumbersome handle.

John West December 17, 2006 09:44AM

Re: A Cumbersome handle.

jack December 17, 2006 10:56AM

Never Did Like The Name....

Herb Kelsey December 18, 2006 04:50PM

Re: Never Did Like The Name....

Greg Scholl December 18, 2006 06:12PM

Re: Never Did Like The Name....

483 December 19, 2006 07:51AM

Re: Never Did Like The Name....

Herb Kelsey December 19, 2006 11:16AM

Re: Never Did Like The Name....

Douglas vV December 19, 2006 11:49AM

Re: Never Did Like The Name....

Herb Kelsey December 19, 2006 04:07PM

Re: Never Did Like The Name....

Douglas vV December 19, 2006 05:24PM

Re: Never Did Like The Name....

Herb Kelsey December 19, 2006 05:54PM

Re: Never Did Like The Name....

rick b December 20, 2006 11:50AM

Re: C&TS renamed? Easy boys...

Tim Tennant December 15, 2006 04:11PM

Mmm, Egg Nog... *NM*

Jim Poston December 15, 2006 04:57PM

or is it...

Wondering December 15, 2006 09:02PM

NR Nomination Conspiracy Theory NOT!

Keith Hayes December 16, 2006 03:35AM

Re: NR Nomination Conspiracy Theory NOT!

Steve stockham December 16, 2006 06:48AM

Re: watch it, bub

Crayuft December 16, 2006 06:57AM

Re: watch it, bub

keith hayes December 16, 2006 10:18AM

Re: C&TS new name???

DRGW489 December 16, 2006 09:58AM

Re: C&TS new name???

Greg Scholl December 16, 2006 10:41AM

Re: C&TS new name???

DRGW489 December 16, 2006 12:52PM

Re: C&TS new name???

William Reed December 16, 2006 01:31PM

Re: C&TS new name???

DRGW489 December 16, 2006 02:46PM

Re: C&TS new name???

D. Williams December 16, 2006 07:17PM

Where are you getting your information???

John Cole December 16, 2006 08:31PM

Re: Where are you getting your information???

Greg Scholl December 17, 2006 08:26AM

Re: Where are you getting your information???

jack December 17, 2006 10:37AM

Re: Where are you getting your information???

Douglas vV December 17, 2006 11:03AM

Re: Where are you getting your information???

Craig Kumler December 17, 2006 02:06PM

If you count Colo Springs I count 5

jack December 17, 2006 04:25PM

Re: If you count Colo Springs I count 5

Craig Kumler December 17, 2006 07:54PM

Re: If you count Colo Springs I count 5

John West December 17, 2006 08:11PM

You win

jack December 17, 2006 10:03PM

Jack, Please Don't Drop Out On Us

Dick Cowles December 18, 2006 11:46AM

Re: Jack, Please Don't Drop Out On Us

Rod Jensen December 18, 2006 12:54PM

Re: Jack, Please Don't Drop Out On Us

Greg Scholl December 18, 2006 02:20PM

Re: Jack, Please Don't Drop Out On Us

Rod Jensen December 18, 2006 03:17PM

Re: Jack, Please Don't Drop Out On Us

DRGW489 December 18, 2006 03:21PM

Alanito Shop Facility

Ed Stabler December 18, 2006 03:22PM

Re: Alanito Shop Facility

John Cole December 18, 2006 04:15PM

Re: Alanito Shop Facility

DRGW489 December 18, 2006 04:36PM

Re: Alanito Shop Facility *LINK*

Greg Scholl December 18, 2006 06:08PM

Re: Alanito Shop Facility

Chile John December 19, 2006 09:47AM

Re: If you count Colo Springs I count 5

Herb Kelsey December 19, 2006 11:44AM

Re: Where are you getting your information???

Richard "Bo" Boulware December 19, 2006 06:50PM

Re: Where are you getting your information???

Paul Uhland December 19, 2006 11:03PM

Re: Where are you getting your information???

DRGW489 December 17, 2006 10:30AM

Re: Where are you getting your information???

jack December 17, 2006 10:45AM

Re: Back tp the matter at hand!

DRGW489 December 17, 2006 03:35PM

Who Want's the C&TS to Get back on top?

jack December 16, 2006 04:20PM

Thanks Jack

Tom C. December 16, 2006 06:12PM

Great summation, Jack

El Coke December 18, 2006 05:44PM

Re: Great summation, Jack

El Veritas December 19, 2006 10:06AM

Simplistic

jack December 19, 2006 12:31PM

Don't lecture me.

El Coke December 19, 2006 03:59PM

Re: C&TS new name???

William Reed December 16, 2006 01:27PM

Re: It's only paint....

Gavin Hamilton December 17, 2006 11:21AM

Re: It's only paint....

Douglas vV December 17, 2006 12:13PM

Re: It's only paint....

Greg Scholl December 17, 2006 02:38PM

Re: It's only paint....

Gavin Hamilton December 17, 2006 04:27PM

Re: It's only paint.... *LINK*

Greg Scholl December 17, 2006 08:11PM

Re: It's only paint....

Gavin Hamilton December 18, 2006 07:58AM

Re: It's only paint....

Greg Scholl December 18, 2006 10:59AM

Re: It's only paint.... *PIC*

Gavin Hamilton December 19, 2006 06:41AM

Re: It's only paint....

rick b December 18, 2006 12:43PM

Re: It's only paint....

Gavin Hamilton December 19, 2006 06:26AM

Re: Significance of C&TS new designation

Dick Cowles December 16, 2006 11:25AM

Re: Significance of C&TS new designation

Observer December 16, 2006 03:55PM

Ignorance Persists

Dick Cowles December 16, 2006 05:52PM

Re: Significance of C&TS new designation

Randall Hess December 16, 2006 05:36PM

NNG, but an answer for Mr. Hess *LINK*

Mark Valerius December 18, 2006 01:15PM



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