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Who Want's the C&TS to Get back on top?

jack
December 16, 2006 04:20PM
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I think when Bartholomew ran the railroad he nearly destroyed the railroad because he deferred locomotive maintenance and track work--although he did get rider ship up and did have 5 loco's under steam at one time he didn't do what he should have to ensure long-term success. It's a shame to think about it and the railroad is just barely now getting back on its feet again.
I can’t speak for the railroads management directly after 1997. I was present for all the changes that happened when Kyle left and GB came to be operator. At the last years of Kyle they had an upper hand in a number of political situations. One major aspect that Kyle never got a good deal on was costs of maintaining the Railroad. The deal was always one sided with the operator responsible for maintaining the track. This coupled with law suits created from lack of workman’s comp, made for a high risk no chance for profit operation. The railroad was at the mercy of FEMA, and Lawyers. The insurance required a deductible that made it un reachable for any problems other than major liabilities and to my knowledge was never used. Money left from good years paid for lawyers and settlements in sometimes questionable lawsuits.
Their were programs that brought money in for capitol improvements from time to time. Some times ticket money paid to the states would be used for loco upkeep, shared payment for an air pump or shared payment for a loco axle. The commission paid for the Machine tools that were purchased in the “90’s” for the shop. But Kyle was responsible for the track. In the end they left.
This arrangement shouldn’t be left out of any talks about the welfare of the railroad and what happened after Kyle left.
When they left a BIG vacuum opened, an opportunity for both the commission and the friends to redistribute the politics of the triad. The commission became more interested in land purchase and less interested in car building or the costs of growing the railroad.
The Friends had lots of projects with all of the non revenue aspects of the railroad and gained much clout in receiving ticket moneys for there projects.
Maintaining the railroad at a level left by Kyle was nearly impossible before GB came along, let alone after the politics were reworked against what ever company took control. GB tried to combat this by growing the revenue fast. This is very expensive on the front end and risky as to weather it will pay off. GB in my opinion had less of a deal than Kyle had.
The maintenance did go into decline after I left as the railroad had no knowledgeable management personnel to look after it. I worked with the railroad for one year after Kyle left and tried to combat the changes that were coming about. I felt that the triad all needed to pull the rope in the same direction so that limited moneys could work the needed projects in unison rather than differing directions. I was very surprised to learn that the health of the railroad was the last thing the commission and the friends had on there agendas. At that time talk of difficulty maintaining the current level of operation was not a topic they had interest in hearing.
I wanted the triad to ALL spend money on a round house connected to the current Chama shops. So that all the locos could be out of the winter weather and available daily for maintenance. The stalls over the old retaining wall could be used by the friends for non revenue car projects and could remain shorter than the other stalls.
The current situation is testament as to the agendas. The states have built two shop facilities and paid for their completion, yearly maintenance and power & heating requirements. The Friends also now have two shops and will do the same. And the railroad will have to start yet another shop facility if it wishes to address problems with maintaining 5 or 6 engines.
The railroad can’t afford one shop on it’s own without state moneys supporting the winter session now days. Yet the railroad has 4 and will need 5.
It has been interesting to watch all this unfold over the last few years. Hopefully the Government and taxpayers will look at all of this with a blind eye and continue to supplement the railroad so that it doesn’t disappear.
I am sure that no discussion of this topic will go on as it has been deemed as a turd in the punch bowl.
I am not a current friend of GB as he was part of my leaving also, but as I have said before he was the new guy. I still don’t like to here people depict the problems of the railroad in a wrong way as correcting the problems will require understanding the problems.
Jack
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C&TS new designation

Rob Lenicheck December 15, 2006 12:17PM

Re: C&TS new designation

Steve stockham December 15, 2006 01:04PM

Where did you hear this? *NM*

Greg Scholl December 15, 2006 01:09PM

Found it-Here's the link *LINK*

Greg Scholl December 15, 2006 01:16PM

C&TS renamed? Easy boys...

Mark Valerius December 15, 2006 01:22PM

Re: C&TS renamed? Easy boys...

John West December 15, 2006 01:42PM

Re: C&TS renamed? Easy boys...

John Bush December 15, 2006 02:52PM

Re: C&TS renamed? Relax

Kevin December 15, 2006 03:17PM

Re: C&TS renamed? Relax

Ed Stabler December 15, 2006 03:38PM

C&TS as history

John West December 15, 2006 03:37PM

A Cumbersome handle.

El Coke December 16, 2006 09:39PM

Re: A Cumbersome handle.

John Cole December 17, 2006 08:00AM

Re: A Cumbersome handle.

John West December 17, 2006 09:44AM

Re: A Cumbersome handle.

jack December 17, 2006 10:56AM

Never Did Like The Name....

Herb Kelsey December 18, 2006 04:50PM

Re: Never Did Like The Name....

Greg Scholl December 18, 2006 06:12PM

Re: Never Did Like The Name....

483 December 19, 2006 07:51AM

Re: Never Did Like The Name....

Herb Kelsey December 19, 2006 11:16AM

Re: Never Did Like The Name....

Douglas vV December 19, 2006 11:49AM

Re: Never Did Like The Name....

Herb Kelsey December 19, 2006 04:07PM

Re: Never Did Like The Name....

Douglas vV December 19, 2006 05:24PM

Re: Never Did Like The Name....

Herb Kelsey December 19, 2006 05:54PM

Re: Never Did Like The Name....

rick b December 20, 2006 11:50AM

Re: C&TS renamed? Easy boys...

Tim Tennant December 15, 2006 04:11PM

Mmm, Egg Nog... *NM*

Jim Poston December 15, 2006 04:57PM

or is it...

Wondering December 15, 2006 09:02PM

NR Nomination Conspiracy Theory NOT!

Keith Hayes December 16, 2006 03:35AM

Re: NR Nomination Conspiracy Theory NOT!

Steve stockham December 16, 2006 06:48AM

Re: watch it, bub

Crayuft December 16, 2006 06:57AM

Re: watch it, bub

keith hayes December 16, 2006 10:18AM

Re: C&TS new name???

DRGW489 December 16, 2006 09:58AM

Re: C&TS new name???

Greg Scholl December 16, 2006 10:41AM

Re: C&TS new name???

DRGW489 December 16, 2006 12:52PM

Re: C&TS new name???

William Reed December 16, 2006 01:31PM

Re: C&TS new name???

DRGW489 December 16, 2006 02:46PM

Re: C&TS new name???

D. Williams December 16, 2006 07:17PM

Where are you getting your information???

John Cole December 16, 2006 08:31PM

Re: Where are you getting your information???

Greg Scholl December 17, 2006 08:26AM

Re: Where are you getting your information???

jack December 17, 2006 10:37AM

Re: Where are you getting your information???

Douglas vV December 17, 2006 11:03AM

Re: Where are you getting your information???

Craig Kumler December 17, 2006 02:06PM

If you count Colo Springs I count 5

jack December 17, 2006 04:25PM

Re: If you count Colo Springs I count 5

Craig Kumler December 17, 2006 07:54PM

Re: If you count Colo Springs I count 5

John West December 17, 2006 08:11PM

You win

jack December 17, 2006 10:03PM

Jack, Please Don't Drop Out On Us

Dick Cowles December 18, 2006 11:46AM

Re: Jack, Please Don't Drop Out On Us

Rod Jensen December 18, 2006 12:54PM

Re: Jack, Please Don't Drop Out On Us

Greg Scholl December 18, 2006 02:20PM

Re: Jack, Please Don't Drop Out On Us

Rod Jensen December 18, 2006 03:17PM

Re: Jack, Please Don't Drop Out On Us

DRGW489 December 18, 2006 03:21PM

Alanito Shop Facility

Ed Stabler December 18, 2006 03:22PM

Re: Alanito Shop Facility

John Cole December 18, 2006 04:15PM

Re: Alanito Shop Facility

DRGW489 December 18, 2006 04:36PM

Re: Alanito Shop Facility *LINK*

Greg Scholl December 18, 2006 06:08PM

Re: Alanito Shop Facility

Chile John December 19, 2006 09:47AM

Re: If you count Colo Springs I count 5

Herb Kelsey December 19, 2006 11:44AM

Re: Where are you getting your information???

Richard "Bo" Boulware December 19, 2006 06:50PM

Re: Where are you getting your information???

Paul Uhland December 19, 2006 11:03PM

Re: Where are you getting your information???

DRGW489 December 17, 2006 10:30AM

Re: Where are you getting your information???

jack December 17, 2006 10:45AM

Re: Back tp the matter at hand!

DRGW489 December 17, 2006 03:35PM

Who Want's the C&TS to Get back on top?

jack December 16, 2006 04:20PM

Thanks Jack

Tom C. December 16, 2006 06:12PM

Great summation, Jack

El Coke December 18, 2006 05:44PM

Re: Great summation, Jack

El Veritas December 19, 2006 10:06AM

Simplistic

jack December 19, 2006 12:31PM

Don't lecture me.

El Coke December 19, 2006 03:59PM

Re: C&TS new name???

William Reed December 16, 2006 01:27PM

Re: It's only paint....

Gavin Hamilton December 17, 2006 11:21AM

Re: It's only paint....

Douglas vV December 17, 2006 12:13PM

Re: It's only paint....

Greg Scholl December 17, 2006 02:38PM

Re: It's only paint....

Gavin Hamilton December 17, 2006 04:27PM

Re: It's only paint.... *LINK*

Greg Scholl December 17, 2006 08:11PM

Re: It's only paint....

Gavin Hamilton December 18, 2006 07:58AM

Re: It's only paint....

Greg Scholl December 18, 2006 10:59AM

Re: It's only paint.... *PIC*

Gavin Hamilton December 19, 2006 06:41AM

Re: It's only paint....

rick b December 18, 2006 12:43PM

Re: It's only paint....

Gavin Hamilton December 19, 2006 06:26AM

Re: Significance of C&TS new designation

Dick Cowles December 16, 2006 11:25AM

Re: Significance of C&TS new designation

Observer December 16, 2006 03:55PM

Ignorance Persists

Dick Cowles December 16, 2006 05:52PM

Re: Significance of C&TS new designation

Randall Hess December 16, 2006 05:36PM

NNG, but an answer for Mr. Hess *LINK*

Mark Valerius December 18, 2006 01:15PM



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