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Re: It's only paint....

December 17, 2006 04:27PM
I think that you'll find that a large proportion of the UK "Heritage railways" DO NOT paint their stock in "Hysterically" correct liveries. There are very many locomotives painted in generic, for want of a better word, liveries which were never carried in service because use of that livery had stopped before the locomotive was built or the loco had since been modified in some way. I'm all for private owners doing their own thing and I do not criticise people I know for doing so (I'm not naming names for obvious reasons) as they have spent vast sums of their money on their hobby - in some cases millions of pounds.
What I do find annoying is muppets who crawl out of the woodwork after a group of people have sweated blood to restore a rail mounted vehicle, (choose your own favourite), to some particular state/livery at vast cost in time/money and all they can do is criticise! I've heard comments such as "They never used that shade of xxxx", "the lining is wrong" - both about a locomotive that I had worked on, researched etc - where the complainer was younger than me (and I was too young to have seen the livery) but those who had (including my father) thought it "looked right".
All these tw@ts seem to say is "they should........."
These individuals have never donated their time or money. Most "Heritage lines" get 95% of their income from non railfan sources.
To get to the C&TS specifically - the name on the stock & locomotive is "Cumbres & Toltec" so that is what the holiday snaps show, it will be what people tell their friends, it's called "Marketing" - you can travel behind a locomotive lettered "Rio Grande" in Michigan & California (I think), even UP have one. The desired result is that people ride the Cumbres & Toltec to preserve what we have for future generations. Magnetic overlays/paint can change id's at short notice - I've seen no complaints about bumblebees (which I find hideous) or recreations of long scrapped locos. Also the coaches are not historical but it would be nice if they could be a uniform livery one day.
G
Enough ranting - once the holiday madness is over I'll be ordering a copy of your "Garratts in Zimbabwe" DVD (can't remember the exact title and after getting up early to drive a steam loco I haven't the energy to look for your latest catalogue which is downstairs somewhere... <img class=" /> )
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C&TS new designation

Rob Lenicheck December 15, 2006 12:17PM

Re: C&TS new designation

Steve stockham December 15, 2006 01:04PM

Where did you hear this? *NM*

Greg Scholl December 15, 2006 01:09PM

Found it-Here's the link *LINK*

Greg Scholl December 15, 2006 01:16PM

C&TS renamed? Easy boys...

Mark Valerius December 15, 2006 01:22PM

Re: C&TS renamed? Easy boys...

John West December 15, 2006 01:42PM

Re: C&TS renamed? Easy boys...

John Bush December 15, 2006 02:52PM

Re: C&TS renamed? Relax

Kevin December 15, 2006 03:17PM

Re: C&TS renamed? Relax

Ed Stabler December 15, 2006 03:38PM

C&TS as history

John West December 15, 2006 03:37PM

A Cumbersome handle.

El Coke December 16, 2006 09:39PM

Re: A Cumbersome handle.

John Cole December 17, 2006 08:00AM

Re: A Cumbersome handle.

John West December 17, 2006 09:44AM

Re: A Cumbersome handle.

jack December 17, 2006 10:56AM

Never Did Like The Name....

Herb Kelsey December 18, 2006 04:50PM

Re: Never Did Like The Name....

Greg Scholl December 18, 2006 06:12PM

Re: Never Did Like The Name....

483 December 19, 2006 07:51AM

Re: Never Did Like The Name....

Herb Kelsey December 19, 2006 11:16AM

Re: Never Did Like The Name....

Douglas vV December 19, 2006 11:49AM

Re: Never Did Like The Name....

Herb Kelsey December 19, 2006 04:07PM

Re: Never Did Like The Name....

Douglas vV December 19, 2006 05:24PM

Re: Never Did Like The Name....

Herb Kelsey December 19, 2006 05:54PM

Re: Never Did Like The Name....

rick b December 20, 2006 11:50AM

Re: C&TS renamed? Easy boys...

Tim Tennant December 15, 2006 04:11PM

Mmm, Egg Nog... *NM*

Jim Poston December 15, 2006 04:57PM

or is it...

Wondering December 15, 2006 09:02PM

NR Nomination Conspiracy Theory NOT!

Keith Hayes December 16, 2006 03:35AM

Re: NR Nomination Conspiracy Theory NOT!

Steve stockham December 16, 2006 06:48AM

Re: watch it, bub

Crayuft December 16, 2006 06:57AM

Re: watch it, bub

keith hayes December 16, 2006 10:18AM

Re: C&TS new name???

DRGW489 December 16, 2006 09:58AM

Re: C&TS new name???

Greg Scholl December 16, 2006 10:41AM

Re: C&TS new name???

DRGW489 December 16, 2006 12:52PM

Re: C&TS new name???

William Reed December 16, 2006 01:31PM

Re: C&TS new name???

DRGW489 December 16, 2006 02:46PM

Re: C&TS new name???

D. Williams December 16, 2006 07:17PM

Where are you getting your information???

John Cole December 16, 2006 08:31PM

Re: Where are you getting your information???

Greg Scholl December 17, 2006 08:26AM

Re: Where are you getting your information???

jack December 17, 2006 10:37AM

Re: Where are you getting your information???

Douglas vV December 17, 2006 11:03AM

Re: Where are you getting your information???

Craig Kumler December 17, 2006 02:06PM

If you count Colo Springs I count 5

jack December 17, 2006 04:25PM

Re: If you count Colo Springs I count 5

Craig Kumler December 17, 2006 07:54PM

Re: If you count Colo Springs I count 5

John West December 17, 2006 08:11PM

You win

jack December 17, 2006 10:03PM

Jack, Please Don't Drop Out On Us

Dick Cowles December 18, 2006 11:46AM

Re: Jack, Please Don't Drop Out On Us

Rod Jensen December 18, 2006 12:54PM

Re: Jack, Please Don't Drop Out On Us

Greg Scholl December 18, 2006 02:20PM

Re: Jack, Please Don't Drop Out On Us

Rod Jensen December 18, 2006 03:17PM

Re: Jack, Please Don't Drop Out On Us

DRGW489 December 18, 2006 03:21PM

Alanito Shop Facility

Ed Stabler December 18, 2006 03:22PM

Re: Alanito Shop Facility

John Cole December 18, 2006 04:15PM

Re: Alanito Shop Facility

DRGW489 December 18, 2006 04:36PM

Re: Alanito Shop Facility *LINK*

Greg Scholl December 18, 2006 06:08PM

Re: Alanito Shop Facility

Chile John December 19, 2006 09:47AM

Re: If you count Colo Springs I count 5

Herb Kelsey December 19, 2006 11:44AM

Re: Where are you getting your information???

Richard "Bo" Boulware December 19, 2006 06:50PM

Re: Where are you getting your information???

Paul Uhland December 19, 2006 11:03PM

Re: Where are you getting your information???

DRGW489 December 17, 2006 10:30AM

Re: Where are you getting your information???

jack December 17, 2006 10:45AM

Re: Back tp the matter at hand!

DRGW489 December 17, 2006 03:35PM

Who Want's the C&TS to Get back on top?

jack December 16, 2006 04:20PM

Thanks Jack

Tom C. December 16, 2006 06:12PM

Great summation, Jack

El Coke December 18, 2006 05:44PM

Re: Great summation, Jack

El Veritas December 19, 2006 10:06AM

Simplistic

jack December 19, 2006 12:31PM

Don't lecture me.

El Coke December 19, 2006 03:59PM

Re: C&TS new name???

William Reed December 16, 2006 01:27PM

Re: It's only paint....

Gavin Hamilton December 17, 2006 11:21AM

Re: It's only paint....

Douglas vV December 17, 2006 12:13PM

Re: It's only paint....

Greg Scholl December 17, 2006 02:38PM

Re: It's only paint....

Gavin Hamilton December 17, 2006 04:27PM

Re: It's only paint.... *LINK*

Greg Scholl December 17, 2006 08:11PM

Re: It's only paint....

Gavin Hamilton December 18, 2006 07:58AM

Re: It's only paint....

Greg Scholl December 18, 2006 10:59AM

Re: It's only paint.... *PIC*

Gavin Hamilton December 19, 2006 06:41AM

Re: It's only paint....

rick b December 18, 2006 12:43PM

Re: It's only paint....

Gavin Hamilton December 19, 2006 06:26AM

Re: Significance of C&TS new designation

Dick Cowles December 16, 2006 11:25AM

Re: Significance of C&TS new designation

Observer December 16, 2006 03:55PM

Ignorance Persists

Dick Cowles December 16, 2006 05:52PM

Re: Significance of C&TS new designation

Randall Hess December 16, 2006 05:36PM

NNG, but an answer for Mr. Hess *LINK*

Mark Valerius December 18, 2006 01:15PM



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