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Jack, Please Don't Drop Out On Us

December 18, 2006 11:46AM
Jack, your opinions and knowledge were important to the C&TS back in the Kyle/Joe Vigil/John Bush days and they are as important as ever today.
As for locomotives once the 489 is extensively rebuilt over this winter (virtually everything, not just what's necessary to meet FRA Part 230 Form 4) the C&TSRR will have clawed its way back to four operational locos. Next to be extensively rebuilt is likely to be 463, but it would not be available until the 2008 season at the earliest (appropriations requests to the two states have now been submitted -- that's the kind of lead time that is required to get the funding and do the work).
Most people feel that going beyond five locomotives will be a function of customer demand, so who knows; might be 2010 before a sixth loco rebuild is justified.
As for locomotive shop capacity, six years ago the Commission applied to CDoT for funds (mostly from Federal T-21 sources) to expand the Antonito Shop. Whether one agrees or not with that decision, that's what the Commission chose to do (probably because CDoT was optimistic about being able to get the money). Well this past year, preliminary approvals finally came through -- $400,000 is being made available. The Antonito shop crew has already done one boiler and it has a decent drop pit (as you know), but of course, real machining has to be done in Chama over the mountain.
As for the Friends car repair facilities those really are just for restoring historical rolling stock -- no revenue equipment. And, as past treasurer of the Friends and the RGRPC I can assure you that the only Commission monies that go to the Friends restoration of historical equipment is for materials.
By way of contrast, in 2000 and 2001, under the same kind of lease as Kyle had, the RGRPC spent $720,000 of its own working capital on fixing the locomotive fleet, plus the Friends donated $577,000 towards the locomotives, and the states chipped in a total of $714,000 toward locomotives and upgrading the electrical in the Chama Shop. In other words a total of 2 million dollars got spent in those two years trying to set things right after the Bartholomew years. Everyone pitched in the Friends, RGRPC, and the states.
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C&TS new designation

Rob Lenicheck December 15, 2006 12:17PM

Re: C&TS new designation

Steve stockham December 15, 2006 01:04PM

Where did you hear this? *NM*

Greg Scholl December 15, 2006 01:09PM

Found it-Here's the link *LINK*

Greg Scholl December 15, 2006 01:16PM

C&TS renamed? Easy boys...

Mark Valerius December 15, 2006 01:22PM

Re: C&TS renamed? Easy boys...

John West December 15, 2006 01:42PM

Re: C&TS renamed? Easy boys...

John Bush December 15, 2006 02:52PM

Re: C&TS renamed? Relax

Kevin December 15, 2006 03:17PM

Re: C&TS renamed? Relax

Ed Stabler December 15, 2006 03:38PM

C&TS as history

John West December 15, 2006 03:37PM

A Cumbersome handle.

El Coke December 16, 2006 09:39PM

Re: A Cumbersome handle.

John Cole December 17, 2006 08:00AM

Re: A Cumbersome handle.

John West December 17, 2006 09:44AM

Re: A Cumbersome handle.

jack December 17, 2006 10:56AM

Never Did Like The Name....

Herb Kelsey December 18, 2006 04:50PM

Re: Never Did Like The Name....

Greg Scholl December 18, 2006 06:12PM

Re: Never Did Like The Name....

483 December 19, 2006 07:51AM

Re: Never Did Like The Name....

Herb Kelsey December 19, 2006 11:16AM

Re: Never Did Like The Name....

Douglas vV December 19, 2006 11:49AM

Re: Never Did Like The Name....

Herb Kelsey December 19, 2006 04:07PM

Re: Never Did Like The Name....

Douglas vV December 19, 2006 05:24PM

Re: Never Did Like The Name....

Herb Kelsey December 19, 2006 05:54PM

Re: Never Did Like The Name....

rick b December 20, 2006 11:50AM

Re: C&TS renamed? Easy boys...

Tim Tennant December 15, 2006 04:11PM

Mmm, Egg Nog... *NM*

Jim Poston December 15, 2006 04:57PM

or is it...

Wondering December 15, 2006 09:02PM

NR Nomination Conspiracy Theory NOT!

Keith Hayes December 16, 2006 03:35AM

Re: NR Nomination Conspiracy Theory NOT!

Steve stockham December 16, 2006 06:48AM

Re: watch it, bub

Crayuft December 16, 2006 06:57AM

Re: watch it, bub

keith hayes December 16, 2006 10:18AM

Re: C&TS new name???

DRGW489 December 16, 2006 09:58AM

Re: C&TS new name???

Greg Scholl December 16, 2006 10:41AM

Re: C&TS new name???

DRGW489 December 16, 2006 12:52PM

Re: C&TS new name???

William Reed December 16, 2006 01:31PM

Re: C&TS new name???

DRGW489 December 16, 2006 02:46PM

Re: C&TS new name???

D. Williams December 16, 2006 07:17PM

Where are you getting your information???

John Cole December 16, 2006 08:31PM

Re: Where are you getting your information???

Greg Scholl December 17, 2006 08:26AM

Re: Where are you getting your information???

jack December 17, 2006 10:37AM

Re: Where are you getting your information???

Douglas vV December 17, 2006 11:03AM

Re: Where are you getting your information???

Craig Kumler December 17, 2006 02:06PM

If you count Colo Springs I count 5

jack December 17, 2006 04:25PM

Re: If you count Colo Springs I count 5

Craig Kumler December 17, 2006 07:54PM

Re: If you count Colo Springs I count 5

John West December 17, 2006 08:11PM

You win

jack December 17, 2006 10:03PM

Jack, Please Don't Drop Out On Us

Dick Cowles December 18, 2006 11:46AM

Re: Jack, Please Don't Drop Out On Us

Rod Jensen December 18, 2006 12:54PM

Re: Jack, Please Don't Drop Out On Us

Greg Scholl December 18, 2006 02:20PM

Re: Jack, Please Don't Drop Out On Us

Rod Jensen December 18, 2006 03:17PM

Re: Jack, Please Don't Drop Out On Us

DRGW489 December 18, 2006 03:21PM

Alanito Shop Facility

Ed Stabler December 18, 2006 03:22PM

Re: Alanito Shop Facility

John Cole December 18, 2006 04:15PM

Re: Alanito Shop Facility

DRGW489 December 18, 2006 04:36PM

Re: Alanito Shop Facility *LINK*

Greg Scholl December 18, 2006 06:08PM

Re: Alanito Shop Facility

Chile John December 19, 2006 09:47AM

Re: If you count Colo Springs I count 5

Herb Kelsey December 19, 2006 11:44AM

Re: Where are you getting your information???

Richard "Bo" Boulware December 19, 2006 06:50PM

Re: Where are you getting your information???

Paul Uhland December 19, 2006 11:03PM

Re: Where are you getting your information???

DRGW489 December 17, 2006 10:30AM

Re: Where are you getting your information???

jack December 17, 2006 10:45AM

Re: Back tp the matter at hand!

DRGW489 December 17, 2006 03:35PM

Who Want's the C&TS to Get back on top?

jack December 16, 2006 04:20PM

Thanks Jack

Tom C. December 16, 2006 06:12PM

Great summation, Jack

El Coke December 18, 2006 05:44PM

Re: Great summation, Jack

El Veritas December 19, 2006 10:06AM

Simplistic

jack December 19, 2006 12:31PM

Don't lecture me.

El Coke December 19, 2006 03:59PM

Re: C&TS new name???

William Reed December 16, 2006 01:27PM

Re: It's only paint....

Gavin Hamilton December 17, 2006 11:21AM

Re: It's only paint....

Douglas vV December 17, 2006 12:13PM

Re: It's only paint....

Greg Scholl December 17, 2006 02:38PM

Re: It's only paint....

Gavin Hamilton December 17, 2006 04:27PM

Re: It's only paint.... *LINK*

Greg Scholl December 17, 2006 08:11PM

Re: It's only paint....

Gavin Hamilton December 18, 2006 07:58AM

Re: It's only paint....

Greg Scholl December 18, 2006 10:59AM

Re: It's only paint.... *PIC*

Gavin Hamilton December 19, 2006 06:41AM

Re: It's only paint....

rick b December 18, 2006 12:43PM

Re: It's only paint....

Gavin Hamilton December 19, 2006 06:26AM

Re: Significance of C&TS new designation

Dick Cowles December 16, 2006 11:25AM

Re: Significance of C&TS new designation

Observer December 16, 2006 03:55PM

Ignorance Persists

Dick Cowles December 16, 2006 05:52PM

Re: Significance of C&TS new designation

Randall Hess December 16, 2006 05:36PM

NNG, but an answer for Mr. Hess *LINK*

Mark Valerius December 18, 2006 01:15PM



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