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Your right ... but...... *PIC*

October 08, 2006 10:09PM
My main purpose is to see the locomotive returned to operating condition. After the otherwise remarkable rebuilding of the C&S no. 9 on the Georgetown Loop, I'm now convinced that those who think any job is "impossible" should only look at what was accomplished with this loco. I am the consumate RR foamer, and I do not wish that this argument would deginerate in to my state Vs. your state, as if this was some kind of sporting event. I only see the possibility of the locomotive being restored in my life time, as much quicker here in Colorado if the CHS got behind the idea. If Nevada can restore her, then by all means, I'll drive there to see it every once-in-a-while, but just because your a citizen of NEV, and me of COL, I see no reason for either of us to fuss about where the loco is, as long as its best intrests are at heart (namely being under steam and pulling something down a track). Although the fact that it is not being restored is not a valid argument for movement, it is, if nothing is goig to be done. You say it will be done, well maybe, but if a campaign was put in place to make sure that it was restored with Colorado CHS funds - then why not. If you feel that there is some kind of robbery being done to your state, and that no value would be recieved, surely there is some value that can be created? Is there a piece of Nev. RR history setting in this state that could be traded? Cash? Reciprocating use agreeements, summers with dad, christmas with mom? I reject the notion that because your state owns it, that is the end of all discussion, and that nothing for the benifit of the locomotive is worth talking about if it does not stay in your state forever.
The "who pays for it" and "where does it live" arguments above are one thing, but being a true RR geek, I must argue one more point of little value to anyone on earth but a few of us on this board who care about such stuff, namely, the wish that you had that it should be lettered for the E&P.
I do believe that it has indeed had a history in Nevada, but to me, that history has been secondary and small compared to its history in Colorado. Your right, you have more years to count, but that to me is like saying that some piece of important WWII war history should stay in a meuseum in Kansas because someone brought it back from the war and its been there for 60 years, rather than being part of some meusum about the war. By far the most use that it ever got as a locomotive, was running in Colorado, I believe that someone here swore that it did run on the E&P, but for a few , or maybe even only one trip? It ran for the first third of the century in Colorado. Unfortunately, not one piece of the Uintah's right of way will ever have a train on them again, so I guess there is not alot of difference between running the thing on the D&S, Georgetown Loop, or on a Neveda tourist RR.
I do have to differ though, on your suggeston that it be lettered for the E&P. There is NO eveidence that it was ever lettered for that road. I have seen pictures of it derilict in the desert, before the casino guy got it, and it was still lettered for the Uintah. She was cared for there, for years by that crew, and sold, only after going through a complete overhaul, including a new boiler. If all I do here is get some people in Nevada to take a look at this locomotives history, maybe thay would see that if restored, she should come back with that lettering, I just find it historically awkward to do differently. Even if she stays in Neveda, I think it would do more for the E&P's history for people to ask why it has the Uintah's name for a Nevadea loco. "Because it was to big for their RR, and they were broke" has alot more historical siginfigance than an exaduration of "what might of been". As for the argument that her many years as a show engine in front of casino was a relevent part of her history - I'm a RR nut, not a gambling man.
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Uintah to Georgetown conection? *PIC*

Rodger Polley October 07, 2006 04:41PM

Re: Uintah to Georgetown conection? *PIC*

Rodger Polley October 07, 2006 04:43PM

Re: Uintah to Georgetown conection?

Pat October 08, 2006 08:38AM

It's Nevada's locomotive.

Dan Markoff October 08, 2006 09:18AM

Re: It's Nevada's locomotive.

John Cole October 08, 2006 11:12AM

Re: It's Nevada's locomotive.

Dan Markoff October 08, 2006 11:26PM

Re: It's Nevada's locomotive.

PRSL October 09, 2006 04:52PM

Re: It's Nevada's locomotive.

Skip Luke October 08, 2006 05:32PM

F&CC Engine?

Jack Ways October 08, 2006 06:00PM

Re: F&CC Engine?

Jack Campbell October 08, 2006 06:43PM

Your right ... but...... *PIC*

Rodger Polley October 08, 2006 10:09PM

The locomotive is Nevada's responsibility

Dan Markoff October 08, 2006 11:48PM

Exisitng Uintah Equipment?

Jim Poston October 09, 2006 04:46AM

Re: The locomotive is Nevada's responsibility

W.A. GiBson Jr October 09, 2006 09:06AM

Re: The locomotive is Nevada's responsibility

Rodger Polley October 09, 2006 06:56PM

Re: The locomotive is Nevada's responsibility

Erik F October 10, 2006 08:24AM

Re: The locomotive is Nevada's responsibility

Robert Herronen October 10, 2006 09:01AM

Re: The locomotive is Nevada's responsibility *PIC*

Dick Bell October 10, 2006 10:17AM

Re: The locomotive is Nevada's responsibility

Ray Cadd October 10, 2006 10:30PM

An Offer of Help with No Strings *LINK*

Phil Reader October 10, 2006 01:15PM

Now that, was helpfull! Thanks! *NM*

Rodger Polley October 10, 2006 02:37PM

Re: An Offer of Help with No Strings

eric bracher October 11, 2006 06:03PM

Thanks! *NM*

Rodger Polley October 11, 2006 10:19PM

The Very Weak Link

Robert October 09, 2006 07:32AM

Re: The Very Weak Link

Fred October 09, 2006 09:45AM

Re: The Very Weak Link

Erik F October 09, 2006 10:12AM

It's about heritage

Steve Stockham October 09, 2006 07:44AM

Re: It's about heritage

480 October 09, 2006 03:42PM

Re: It's about heritage

Steve Stockham October 09, 2006 04:14PM

Re: It's about heritage

El Skonk October 09, 2006 05:27PM

Re: It's about heritage

Ted Miles October 09, 2006 08:52PM

Re: It's about heritage *LINK*

Randy Hees October 09, 2006 09:33PM

Re: It's about heritage

Steve Stockham October 09, 2006 09:50PM

Three Shays?

Robert October 10, 2006 08:06AM

Re: Three Shays?

Ryan Shofner October 10, 2006 09:57AM

Re: Three Shays?

Shane Schabow October 10, 2006 10:44AM

Re: Three Shays?

Robert October 10, 2006 12:16PM

Re: Three Shays?

Steve Stockham October 10, 2006 02:21PM

Re: Three Shays?

Shane Schabow October 10, 2006 04:38PM

"Possession is 9/10 of the law..."

El Coke October 10, 2006 09:27AM

Agreed........

Rodger Polley October 10, 2006 02:58PM

BTW

Rodger Polley October 10, 2006 03:00PM

Nevada and Colorado preservation

El Coke October 10, 2006 07:49PM

Re: Nevada and Colorado preservation

Erik F October 11, 2006 08:14AM

Re: Engine for Uintah Ry Preservation *LINK*

PRSL October 11, 2006 09:32AM

A Good Laugh? I missed something.

Dan Markoff October 12, 2006 09:00PM

Re: A Good Laugh? I missed something.

waynek October 12, 2006 11:18PM

Re: A Good Laugh? I missed something.

Gavin Hamilton October 13, 2006 02:58AM

Re: A Good Laugh? I missed something.

Casey Akin aka: kitBASHer October 13, 2006 12:29AM

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Tim October 13, 2006 06:49AM

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Dan Markoff October 13, 2006 06:56AM

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Fred October 13, 2006 01:16PM

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Dan Markoff October 13, 2006 07:10PM

Re: A Good Laugh? I missed something.

Rick Renz October 13, 2006 07:41AM

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Dan Markoff October 13, 2006 07:52AM

Re: A Good Laugh? I missed something.

Rick Renz October 13, 2006 08:00AM

Re: A Good Laugh? I missed something.

South Park October 13, 2006 11:45AM

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Dan Markoff October 13, 2006 07:15PM

Re: A Good Laugh? I missed something.

Ted Miles October 15, 2006 10:34PM

The Combine

Dan Markoff October 16, 2006 07:43AM

Re: A Good Laugh? I missed something.

John October 16, 2006 11:27PM

Eureka, Glenbrook & Tahoe

Dan Markoff October 17, 2006 08:12AM

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Philip H. Walters October 17, 2006 08:38AM

Re: Eureka, Glenbrook & Tahoe

Dan Markoff October 17, 2006 07:46PM

Re: Eureka, Glenbrook, Tahoe & Sonoma too *LINK* *PIC*

Rod Jensen October 17, 2006 09:39AM

Re: Eureka, Glenbrook, Tahoe & Sonoma too

Dan Markoff October 17, 2006 11:18PM

Re: Eureka, Glenbrook, Tahoe & Sonoma too

Steve Stockham October 18, 2006 09:04AM

Re: Eureka, Glenbrook, Tahoe & Sonoma too

Dan Markoff October 18, 2006 09:09AM

Re: Nevada and Colorado preservation

Rodger Polley October 11, 2006 10:26PM

Caveats...

El Coke October 12, 2006 06:21PM



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