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Re: 130 program, bubble gum, and car fires

November 22, 2000 06:31PM
I guess I feel I need to post this. I am currently involved with an "operating museum" in South Eastern Indiana. I am a railfan, but I consider myself a railroader when I am at the throttle or at the end of a fusee. I have two sides of me pulling me in both directions -- Signals or no signals, that is the question.
When I am in the cab of the locomotive coming at a crossing I should feel more at ease when that crossing has flashers. I don't. I have seen too many cars pull in front of my locomotive even after stopping and looking right at the locomotive. Working as a brakeman, I have had to stop a train (5mph backing movement) and walk over to a car that drove up on the tracks and stopped during our approach. This with working signals on his approach. He seemed a bit startled when I told him a train was coming when it wasn't more than 20 feet from him.
I have also done my share of flagging crossings, both during the day and at night, with and without fusees. Why I am alive to write this post is a wonder. If someone can come up with a better attention getter than a red fusee in the middle of the drive lane, I would like to see it. They just don't want to stop.
What seems to work the best, short of education, is a bright light, and a VERY loud air horn (sorry, were diesel). But even that combined with flashers will not solve your problem. (Whistles substituted for horns, of course)
No matter what is done, if you cross grade crossings with a train, you will eventually hit somebody.
That said, I have chased trains along the 4% eastbound from Chama. I cherish the pictures and slides that I got last year from those "original" crossings. Time seems to stand still on the C&TS, even when progress is occurring.
If lights and gates show up on the C&TS, I will know and understand why, and have no problems with it. But that "update" will forever change the flavor and pocketbook of the C&TS. Once they go up, they won't come back down. And the RR usually pays for the maintenance, even if the state installs them.
I guess a very long post can be summed up like this:
"How much benefit vs loss will the C&TS have to endure for the changes made?"
We have to update our equipment, track, etc. if we want to continue to operate safely. But preservation needs to be a consideration, especially with treasure like the C&TS.
Facts first, decisions second.
My penny and a half's worth!
Ryan
Subject Author Posted

Something to think about

rdmstr November 17, 2000 06:05PM

Re: Something to think about

David Dewey November 17, 2000 06:57PM

Re: Something to think about

Earl Knoob November 18, 2000 08:03AM

Re: Something to think about

RichB November 18, 2000 10:35AM

Re: Truckers & Police

Brian Norden November 18, 2000 11:01AM

Re: Operation Lifesaver

Wade Hall November 18, 2000 11:25AM

Re: Truckers & Police

Earl Knoob November 18, 2000 03:17PM

Bad grade crossings

El Coke November 18, 2000 05:07PM

Re: Something to think about

rdmstr November 18, 2000 07:28PM

Re: Something to think about

jhs November 18, 2000 09:21PM

Tragedy, a few laughs, and more tradegy

John West November 18, 2000 10:18PM

signals?

tim olson November 19, 2000 09:00AM

That's a problem

El Coke November 19, 2000 10:12AM

Crossing protection

John West November 19, 2000 10:21AM

Re: Crossing protection

Wade Hall November 19, 2000 01:40PM

Re: Crossing protection

Boomer November 19, 2000 02:30PM

What Scenic did .

El Coke November 19, 2000 02:34PM

Re: What Scenic did .

RBrinton November 19, 2000 04:03PM

Flagmen

John old man West November 19, 2000 04:41PM

Who stops for whom?

Les Jarrett November 19, 2000 06:52PM

Re: Who stops for whom?

J. B. Bane November 19, 2000 08:53PM

Flagmen's effectiveness

John West November 19, 2000 09:29PM

Re: Flagmen's effectiveness

Fred T November 19, 2000 11:37PM

Re: Flagmen's effectiveness

Earl the flagman November 20, 2000 06:57AM

Re: Flagmen's effectiveness

John the optimist West November 20, 2000 01:32PM

Re: Flagmen's effectiveness

Duane Richardson November 20, 2000 07:56AM

Re: Flagmen's effectiveness

O. Anderson November 20, 2000 02:18PM

Re: Flagmen

Boris Serena November 19, 2000 10:42PM

Re: Crossing protection

Art Chase November 19, 2000 10:51PM

Re: Crossing protection

Brian Norden November 19, 2000 11:02PM

In reply to Art and Brian

John West November 19, 2000 11:18PM

Re: In reply to Art and Brian

Art Chase November 20, 2000 10:18AM

Re: In reply to Art and Brian

G. W. Laepple November 21, 2000 12:39PM

130 program, bubble gum, and car fires

John West November 21, 2000 05:30PM

Re: 130 program, bubble gum, and car fires

Ryan Scott November 22, 2000 06:31PM

Flashers on the Narrow Gauge

Jessica Stacey November 23, 2000 09:21AM

Re: Flashers on the Narrow Gauge

Earl Knoob November 25, 2000 08:32AM

Re: Flashers on the Narrow Gauge

Dave Lamson November 28, 2000 10:31PM

Re: Flashers on the Narrow Gauge

Earl November 29, 2000 01:24PM

California flashers

John West November 30, 2000 01:14PM

Re: 130 program, bubble gum, and car fires

J. B. Bane November 23, 2000 11:10AM

Re: 130 program, bubble gum, and car fires

Brian Norden November 26, 2000 11:36PM

Re: 130 program, bubble gum, and car fires

pmcassell November 28, 2000 06:54PM

SP San Joaquin

Brian Norden November 28, 2000 11:24PM

Re: signals?

dan November 20, 2000 08:31PM

Re: signals?

Chris November 21, 2000 04:20PM

Re: signals?

J. B. Bane November 21, 2000 07:59PM

Re: signals?

Oil Czar November 21, 2000 08:48PM

Re: signals?

Dave Lamson (ex-B&M) November 21, 2000 11:20PM

Re: signals?

dan November 22, 2000 09:15AM

Re: signals?

George Gaskill November 24, 2000 11:12AM

Re: signals?

dan November 24, 2000 02:09PM

Re: signals?

Oil Czar November 24, 2000 09:20PM

Re: signals?

George Gaskill November 24, 2000 11:44PM

Re: signals?

RBrinton November 25, 2000 09:07AM

Re: Something to think about

James R. Temple November 20, 2000 12:55AM

I'd vote for flaggers

Stevo del Applegato November 22, 2000 12:37PM



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