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Re: Something to think about

Earl Knoob
November 18, 2000 08:03AM
I have to this point been very lucky in my career in avoiding such high speed collisions. Recently while working for a northern mid-western shortline, a freind of mine there wacked a car at a crossing. He was going the legal limit of 25 mph, but center punched a Chevy Tahoe hard enough to kill the driver (who was NOT wearing a seatbelt). What amazed me was how the local law enforcement treated the train crew as criminals. Refused to allow them to talk to RR Officals and demanded they be hauled in for a bloodtest (FRA requires a simple urine test). Another incident I heard of there involved a drunk person plowing into the middle of a moving train. Train was moving at 30 mph, car moving an estimated 80+ mph.
The train crew had no idea anything happened as the car hit about 40 cars deep at an unprotected crossing. The local authorities had the train stopped at the next town, where the County Mounties tried to arrest the crew for leaving the scene of an accident.
Every law enforcement officer needs to attend an Operation Lifesaver class. They need to be made to understand that a train is not another "motor vehicle". They need to understand "vehicles can stop - trains can't".
I had the same law enforcement problems in Chama. Fuel truck drivers coming east from Farmington liked to go through Chama because there is no port of entry into CO on HWY 17. They were constantly roaring through the RR crossings without at much as slowing down (DOT regs require Hazmat carriers to stop at all RR xings). Calls to the carriers, were useless, finally I followed one off Cumbres who was doing over 70 across many crossings. I called NM State Police on my cell phone. The response was "........oh, well that's a tourist train....it doesn't count..."
But to get back to the original point (and to tie this to the narrow gauge), I did have the unpleasant experience of hitting a distraught oriental tourist while working for the LK&P in Hawaii. He decided to end it all and figured that a 25 ton Porter 2-4-0 thundering up a hill at 12 mph was the way to go. Well,.... he got his way.
......and yes, I will never forget it.
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Something to think about

rdmstr November 17, 2000 06:05PM

Re: Something to think about

David Dewey November 17, 2000 06:57PM

Re: Something to think about

Earl Knoob November 18, 2000 08:03AM

Re: Something to think about

RichB November 18, 2000 10:35AM

Re: Truckers & Police

Brian Norden November 18, 2000 11:01AM

Re: Operation Lifesaver

Wade Hall November 18, 2000 11:25AM

Re: Truckers & Police

Earl Knoob November 18, 2000 03:17PM

Bad grade crossings

El Coke November 18, 2000 05:07PM

Re: Something to think about

rdmstr November 18, 2000 07:28PM

Re: Something to think about

jhs November 18, 2000 09:21PM

Tragedy, a few laughs, and more tradegy

John West November 18, 2000 10:18PM

signals?

tim olson November 19, 2000 09:00AM

That's a problem

El Coke November 19, 2000 10:12AM

Crossing protection

John West November 19, 2000 10:21AM

Re: Crossing protection

Wade Hall November 19, 2000 01:40PM

Re: Crossing protection

Boomer November 19, 2000 02:30PM

What Scenic did .

El Coke November 19, 2000 02:34PM

Re: What Scenic did .

RBrinton November 19, 2000 04:03PM

Flagmen

John old man West November 19, 2000 04:41PM

Who stops for whom?

Les Jarrett November 19, 2000 06:52PM

Re: Who stops for whom?

J. B. Bane November 19, 2000 08:53PM

Flagmen's effectiveness

John West November 19, 2000 09:29PM

Re: Flagmen's effectiveness

Fred T November 19, 2000 11:37PM

Re: Flagmen's effectiveness

Earl the flagman November 20, 2000 06:57AM

Re: Flagmen's effectiveness

John the optimist West November 20, 2000 01:32PM

Re: Flagmen's effectiveness

Duane Richardson November 20, 2000 07:56AM

Re: Flagmen's effectiveness

O. Anderson November 20, 2000 02:18PM

Re: Flagmen

Boris Serena November 19, 2000 10:42PM

Re: Crossing protection

Art Chase November 19, 2000 10:51PM

Re: Crossing protection

Brian Norden November 19, 2000 11:02PM

In reply to Art and Brian

John West November 19, 2000 11:18PM

Re: In reply to Art and Brian

Art Chase November 20, 2000 10:18AM

Re: In reply to Art and Brian

G. W. Laepple November 21, 2000 12:39PM

130 program, bubble gum, and car fires

John West November 21, 2000 05:30PM

Re: 130 program, bubble gum, and car fires

Ryan Scott November 22, 2000 06:31PM

Flashers on the Narrow Gauge

Jessica Stacey November 23, 2000 09:21AM

Re: Flashers on the Narrow Gauge

Earl Knoob November 25, 2000 08:32AM

Re: Flashers on the Narrow Gauge

Dave Lamson November 28, 2000 10:31PM

Re: Flashers on the Narrow Gauge

Earl November 29, 2000 01:24PM

California flashers

John West November 30, 2000 01:14PM

Re: 130 program, bubble gum, and car fires

J. B. Bane November 23, 2000 11:10AM

Re: 130 program, bubble gum, and car fires

Brian Norden November 26, 2000 11:36PM

Re: 130 program, bubble gum, and car fires

pmcassell November 28, 2000 06:54PM

SP San Joaquin

Brian Norden November 28, 2000 11:24PM

Re: signals?

dan November 20, 2000 08:31PM

Re: signals?

Chris November 21, 2000 04:20PM

Re: signals?

J. B. Bane November 21, 2000 07:59PM

Re: signals?

Oil Czar November 21, 2000 08:48PM

Re: signals?

Dave Lamson (ex-B&M) November 21, 2000 11:20PM

Re: signals?

dan November 22, 2000 09:15AM

Re: signals?

George Gaskill November 24, 2000 11:12AM

Re: signals?

dan November 24, 2000 02:09PM

Re: signals?

Oil Czar November 24, 2000 09:20PM

Re: signals?

George Gaskill November 24, 2000 11:44PM

Re: signals?

RBrinton November 25, 2000 09:07AM

Re: Something to think about

James R. Temple November 20, 2000 12:55AM

I'd vote for flaggers

Stevo del Applegato November 22, 2000 12:37PM



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