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re: Outsider's Perspective - Don't Tar RailStar(?)

July 01, 2005 03:36PM
All -
As an outsider, I haven't butted it for a long time - and did so then only when things "did not compute". I'm butting in again because, to my aging mind, some of it still "does not compute".
1) Above all, I would like to see the loop itself - rebuilt with a lot of blood, sweat and tears over a thirty-year period - survive. The 'new' Loop is now also a part of Colorado History, and - if nothing else - is a monument not only to the visionary railroaders of the late 1800's, but to the visionary railroaders of the late 1900's as well.
2) I would like to see credit given where credit is due. If the CHS has indeed ignored the contributions of those responsible for the restoration - including the SeaBees who performed a lot of the physical labor - then the CHS is in direct violation of it's primary excuse for existence: the ACCURATE Preservation of History.
3) Most of us are not privy to the negotiations - or lack thereof - between the CHS and the GTLRR, so let's not speculate as to which side thought itself "irreplacable", and stick to those aspects of the situation which have taken place more-or-less out in the open.
4) Railstar was hired by the CHS in an effort to salvage the 2005 season and keep the Loop alive. That's better than having the rails pulled up and the viaduct become an access road for condos. Railstar should NOT be tarred with the brush of "guilt by association" for doing the best they can to assemble equipment and staff on short notice to run trains this summer. They should be commended for doing acceptably well, under the circumstances, what a lot of people thought they wouldn't be able do at all.
5) If Railstar is to AVOID being tarred with the same brush, however, they had better NOT cover up for the CHS, NOT make promises they can't keep, and NOT exaggerate the number of riders to date.
6) Photos of #9 and #30/74 posted today tend to make me doubt that either of these engines will be ready later this summer in time to raise capacity to "85% to 90% of 2004". I'll be surprised if they're ready by the end of the 2006 season, from the looks of things. HHmmm.
7) It was apparently promised at one of the Loop Group meetings that legitimate questions posed at least 72 hours in advance of the next meeting would be addressed. To ask for an accurate count of passengers carried seems to this outsider to be a legitimate question - especially when some of those asking are merchants who need to order this summer's supply of indian beads from China and miner's pans from Bankok in numbers proportional to the number of souvenir-hunting suckers flatland touristers that can be expected to come into town after riding the trains.
8. The number of round-trip tickets sold is a basic statistic that the operators are surely tracking. Even taking the conductor's clickers and dividing the number of boarders by two at the end of each day would be easy to do. Yet Railstar's and CHS's representatives at the meeting claim these numbers are NOT available?? And that there will be a charge levied for producing a "special report" for the NEXT meeting???? HHHhhmmmm and double-HHHhhmmmmm ...
- Russo de los Locos
p.s. I'm beginning to think about moving to Georgetown and opening up a hardware store - something that wouldn't depend directly on the number of flatlanders coming to town this summer. On opening day I'll make a fortune by selling blocks of roofing tar and large brushes. Tar heaters will be rented at 20% off. . . <img class=" />
Subject Author Posted

Railstar promises 80% to 90% of 2005 Capacity *LINK*

Chris Webster June 29, 2005 05:37PM

and No. 9 to "be ready in two or three weeks" *NM* *NM*

Chris Webster June 29, 2005 05:41PM

Can't open the link *NM*

John West June 29, 2005 06:15PM

The article *LINK*

Fred T June 29, 2005 06:31PM

Re: The article

Ron Ruhoff June 29, 2005 06:46PM

Re: The article/ economics?

Mike Stillwell June 30, 2005 06:58AM

re: Outsider's Perspective - Don't Tar RailStar(?)

Russ Sperry July 01, 2005 03:36PM

Re: re: Outsider's Perspective - Don't Tar RailSta

Jim MacMillan July 01, 2005 05:13PM

Re: re: Outsider's Perspective - Don't Tar RailSta

Russo de los Locos July 02, 2005 01:36AM

Corrected Link *LINK*

Chris Webster June 29, 2005 06:31PM

Re: and No. 9 to "be ready in two or three weeks"

Towne Comee June 30, 2005 08:04AM

C&S 9 *PIC*

Matthew June 30, 2005 04:56PM

Re: C&S 9

Mike Trent June 30, 2005 08:13PM

Re: C&S 9

tom casper June 30, 2005 08:53PM

Re: C&S 9

Towne Comee July 01, 2005 08:02AM

Re: C&S 9 *PIC*

Dave Bates July 01, 2005 01:55PM

Re: C&S 9

Chris Webster July 01, 2005 03:25PM

Yes

Dave Bates July 01, 2005 03:34PM

Re: C&S 9 *LINK*

Linn W. Moedinger July 01, 2005 03:45PM

Wive's Tale #12 regarding #74 *LINK*

Mike Trent July 01, 2005 09:34PM

What we heard

El Coke July 03, 2005 08:04PM

Re: What we heard

Mike Trent July 04, 2005 07:22PM

Re: C&S 9

Ted Krumreich July 04, 2005 07:46PM

Re: C&S 9

Jason Midyette July 05, 2005 07:10AM

Re: C&S 9 *LINK*

Linn W. Moedinger July 06, 2005 05:08AM

Re: C&S 9

Rick Steele July 06, 2005 09:03AM

Re: C&S 9

Shane Schabow July 01, 2005 05:08PM

Re: C&S 9 *LINK*

Mark Fuller July 06, 2005 09:54AM

Re: C&S 9

Douglas vV July 07, 2005 02:41PM

Here is the 74/30 too *PIC*

Matthew June 30, 2005 09:51PM

A rumour about C&S 9s Boiler

Thor Windbergs July 06, 2005 02:47PM

Re: A rumour about C&S 9s Boiler

Steve Stockham July 06, 2005 04:02PM

Re: A rumour about C&S 9s Boiler

KWilcomb July 06, 2005 04:49PM

Re: A rumour about C&S 9s Boiler

Mike Trent July 06, 2005 07:20PM

Re: A rumour about C&S 9s Boiler

Karell Reader July 06, 2005 07:47PM

Re: A rumour about C&S 9s Boiler

Howard July 07, 2005 12:16AM

Re: C&S #9 Boiler - why not a RePliKa??

Russ Sperry July 07, 2005 02:06PM

Re: C&S #9 Boiler - why not a RePliKa??

Festus July 07, 2005 02:31PM

Re: C&S #9 Boiler - why not a RePliKa??

Jason Midyette July 07, 2005 05:47PM

Re: Why not RePliKas - 2 2-6-0's & 2 2-8-0's?? *LINK*

Russ Sperry July 07, 2005 06:43PM

Re: Why not RePliKas - 2 2-6-0's & 2 2-8-0's?? *LINK* *PIC*

Kelly Anderson July 08, 2005 06:07AM

Re: C&S #9 Boiler - why not a RePliKa??

John Kyler July 07, 2005 08:16PM

Re: C&S #9 - why not a RePliKa??

Curtis_F July 07, 2005 11:16PM

Re: C&S #9 Boiler - why not a RePliKa??

Ken Martin July 08, 2005 12:29PM

Re: C&S #9 Boiler - why not a RePliKa??

Steve Stockham July 08, 2005 06:40AM

Re: C&S #9 Boiler - why not #70

Kevin July 08, 2005 01:43PM

Re: C&S #9 Boiler - why not a RePliKa??

Donald Foster July 08, 2005 03:57PM



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