December 01, 2023 08:33PM
|
|
Registered: 16 years ago
Posts: 445
|
Based on Rick Steele’s comments, 191 is as a historical artifact, highly compromised, with only limited historic fabric remaining, but as a whole is in fact historic… and as such, more work if it followed documented plans and practices, might not affect locomotives historic “value”
I had several long and interesting conversations with the late Bill Withuhn, one time curator of transportation at the Smithsonian, and a member of the committee who wrote the current FRA boiler rules. He believed that under the new (1990’s) rules, a wrought iron boiler could be permitted, using a low strength value for the calculations. I suspect that you would also have to do testing to assure that the wrought iron was not delaminating. The resulting calculations would likely mean that you would have a low boiler pressure allowed, and as a result might be ok for operations in a yard environment, but likely would not be able to do significant work.
Of course, the California State Railroad Museum replaced the boiler on Sierra 3, so new boilers are possible in a responsible museum environment. This is likely to become a more common practice for operating historic locomotives.
The final issue might be how to fund such a project, and address questions about how to use the locomotive to assure it will help fund itself and ongoing maintenance in a historically acceptable way… noting that if its operation results in significant donations, that can be a revenue model.
Randy Hees
Director, Nevada State Railroad Museum, Boulder City, retired
PacificNG.org - a curated Wiki on Pacific Slope Narrow Gauge www.pacificng.com
Moderator - Railway Preservation News www.rypn.org
Subject |
Author |
Posted |
|
Dan Markoff |
December 01, 2023 11:16AM |
|
bcp |
December 01, 2023 11:31AM |
|
guymonmd |
December 01, 2023 11:52AM |
|
Dan Markoff |
December 01, 2023 12:26PM |
|
James |
December 01, 2023 12:54PM |
|
Dan Markoff |
December 01, 2023 03:47PM |
|
Rick Steele |
December 01, 2023 12:56PM |
|
SilvertonBranch |
December 01, 2023 03:59PM |
|
Rick Steele |
December 01, 2023 05:14PM |
|
Dan Markoff |
December 01, 2023 04:03PM |
|
Kurt Maechner |
December 01, 2023 04:09PM |
|
Dan Markoff |
December 01, 2023 05:37PM |
|
Stephen Peck |
December 01, 2023 06:25PM |
|
Dan Markoff |
December 01, 2023 07:15PM |
|
The Train Tracker |
December 01, 2023 08:35PM |
|
Dan Markoff |
December 01, 2023 09:05PM |
|
Randy Hees |
December 01, 2023 09:30PM |
|
Stephen Peck |
December 02, 2023 10:34AM |
|
Dan Markoff |
December 02, 2023 11:28AM |
|
Joe Weigman |
December 02, 2023 11:54AM |
|
John Bush |
December 02, 2023 04:59PM |
|
Randy Hees |
December 04, 2023 10:17AM |
|
Steve Black |
December 04, 2023 11:52AM |
|
John C |
December 04, 2023 12:18PM |
|
Steve Black |
December 04, 2023 12:26PM |
|
Dan Markoff |
December 04, 2023 12:43PM |
|
Randy Hees |
December 10, 2023 01:06PM |
|
Dan Markoff |
December 16, 2023 10:25AM |
|
Kurt Maechner |
December 01, 2023 08:21PM |
|
HAICH OMANDIER |
December 02, 2023 12:04PM |
|
Dan Markoff |
December 04, 2023 08:53AM |
|
The Train Tracker |
December 04, 2023 10:45AM |
|
Dan Markoff |
December 04, 2023 11:22AM |
|
drgwcs |
December 16, 2023 06:01PM |
|
John C |
December 01, 2023 06:25PM |
|
Randy Hees |
December 01, 2023 08:33PM |
|
KevinM |
December 02, 2023 08:42AM |
|
Dan Markoff |
December 02, 2023 09:41AM |
|
John K |
December 02, 2023 10:19AM |
|
Jeff Taylor |
December 03, 2023 01:33AM |
|
KevinM |
December 03, 2023 08:53AM |
|
James |
December 03, 2023 09:35AM |
|
Dan Markoff |
December 03, 2023 11:32AM |
|
Jeff Taylor |
December 03, 2023 01:39AM |
|
Jeff Taylor |
December 03, 2023 01:56AM |
|
Samart |
December 03, 2023 07:21AM |
|
Ethan |
December 04, 2023 06:51PM |
|
Wayne Sanderson |
December 20, 2023 07:41PM |
|
Joe Weigman |
December 05, 2023 10:17AM |
|
Ted miles |
December 06, 2023 08:59PM |
|
Dan Markoff |
December 06, 2023 10:43PM |
|
Kelly Anderson |
December 03, 2023 07:09AM |
|
Jeff Taylor |
December 04, 2023 10:46AM |
|
Kurt Maechner |
December 05, 2023 04:23AM |
|
Ken Martin |
December 05, 2023 09:17AM |
|
Kelly Anderson |
December 05, 2023 11:28AM |
|
Jon Bentz |
December 06, 2023 10:39AM |
|
Jon Bentz |
December 06, 2023 10:40AM |
|
Dale Grant |
December 09, 2023 10:16AM |
|
Jeff Taylor |
December 09, 2023 10:34AM |
|
Kelly Anderson |
December 04, 2023 07:04PM |
|
KevinM |
December 04, 2023 08:42PM |
|
Mark Petersen |
December 05, 2023 09:16AM |
|
Dan Markoff |
December 06, 2023 10:14AM |
|
KevinM |
December 06, 2023 07:27PM |
|
Dougwood1954 |
December 09, 2023 05:57AM |
|
Bernie Perch |
December 09, 2023 08:46AM |
|
Mark Huber |
December 09, 2023 03:37AM |
|
tgbcvr |
December 09, 2023 09:53AM |
|
Dan Markoff |
December 09, 2023 12:04PM |
|
Jeff Taylor |
December 09, 2023 01:11PM |
|
Rosso |
January 28, 2024 10:05AM |
|
Dan Markoff |
December 13, 2023 04:04PM |
|
Mark Huber |
December 13, 2023 09:01PM |
|
Jeff Taylor |
December 14, 2023 02:26AM |
|
Dan Markoff |
December 14, 2023 10:40AM |
|
spieser |
December 14, 2023 12:05PM |
|
Brett Wiebold |
December 14, 2023 12:22PM |
|
Dan Markoff |
December 15, 2023 12:32PM |
|
Jeff Taylor |
December 16, 2023 09:39PM |
|
Mark Huber |
December 16, 2023 11:57PM |
|
Dan Markoff |
December 17, 2023 11:47AM |
|
Russo Loco |
December 17, 2023 04:55PM |
|
Jeff Taylor |
December 18, 2023 12:41AM |
|
HAICH OMANDIER |
December 18, 2023 09:19AM |
|
Dan Markoff |
December 18, 2023 09:59AM |
|
Switchstand |
December 18, 2023 10:34AM |
|
HAICH OMANDIER |
December 18, 2023 10:54AM |
|
Brian Norden |
December 18, 2023 11:14AM |
|
Jeff Taylor |
December 19, 2023 12:14AM |
|
Mark Huber |
December 18, 2023 02:09PM |
|
HAICH OMANDIER |
December 18, 2023 03:47PM |
|
Russo Loco |
December 18, 2023 05:56PM |
|
HAICH OMANDIER |
December 19, 2023 08:04AM |
|
Samart |
December 19, 2023 06:21AM |
|
HAICH OMANDIER |
December 19, 2023 08:11AM |
|
Samart |
December 19, 2023 09:09AM |
|
Dan Markoff |
December 19, 2023 07:44AM |
|
Jim |
December 17, 2023 08:27AM |
|
Jeff Taylor |
December 16, 2023 09:47PM |
|
Dan Markoff |
December 17, 2023 11:38AM |
|
James Temple |
December 17, 2023 05:34PM |
|
jim pallow |
December 17, 2023 06:56PM |
|
tgbcvr |
December 19, 2023 05:51AM |
|
Dan Markoff |
December 19, 2023 07:24AM |
|
Jeff Taylor |
December 21, 2023 03:22PM |
|
davidtltc |
December 21, 2023 03:40PM |
|
davidtltc |
December 21, 2023 03:46PM |
|
Brett Wiebold |
December 21, 2023 03:56PM |
|
CCdW |
December 21, 2023 04:40PM |
|
Kelly Anderson |
December 21, 2023 05:18PM |
|
Jeff Taylor |
December 21, 2023 07:38PM |
|
Kelly Anderson |
December 21, 2023 07:40PM |