December 01, 2023 04:09PM
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Rick,
Your line about jacking up her bell and putting a new locomotive under it made me laugh out loud.
A few other notes of how quite worn the old girl is:
By 1932, when she was first put on display in Wisconsin, the then 52-year old 191/Thunder Lake No. 7 was in such bad shape that, as Jason Midyette put it in a Bogies & the Loop article, the engine was “just shy of ceasing forward motion.”
In 1973 when Bob was in Wisconsin to move 191 off of her display track, despite their efforts through the frigid temperatures and blowing snow, nothing seemed to get the engine to roll. At last, a final decision was made. The crew greased up the rails and slid her with a winch, wheels locked, onto the lowboy trailer. After the stubborn engine slowly slid off her 40-year home, she was maneuvered on the trailer around trees, electric poles, and serpentine roadways to reach her waiting gondola. It took almost a week to get it moved and on the way back west.
The Colorado Railroad Museum’s small Plymouth diesel was called on to assist 191’s mobility issues after she arrived in Golden. The little diesel tugged and pushed, but the 2-8-0’s wheels, doused with penetrating oil, refused to rotate. The process was continued for several weeks by a surely discouraged crew until the amount of oil used reached into the gallons. Suddenly, one day, the Plymouth “Peewee” locomotive tugged once more and DSP&P 191’s wheels moved for the first time in four decades. For more of 191's story see
here and
here.
In terms of getting 191 running again, I agree that a replica would be smarter. I must say, however, it would be nice to see an authentic C&S/South Park engine running regularly. No offense to the Rio Grande fans, but I get jealous at how easy it is to see D&RG equipment alive and in action. Us C&S fans have to enjoy abandoned grades, static engines, and non-C&S locos at the Loop and Como. I'm not complaining about those-I love that there is live steam on at least two former C&S lines, but, man, would it be great to see C&S 9, 60, 71, 74, or DSP&P 191 running!
Kurt
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