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Re: There was a lot of confusion in those days.

January 22, 2004 12:42AM
Bruce,
There sure was a lot of confusion, which still persists today. According to the pictures on your webpage, 10 & 14 were shipped from the ET&WNC in May 1942. Preston's picture shows one of them [supposedly 14] during the winter of '42 on the steel bridge. The fluted stack cap is in place and the smokebox is uninsulated. Other pictures on your webpage show them being unloaded at Tacoma WA, and the date is stated as 12 July 1943. The fluted stack cap and uninsulated smokebox is evident. This date is further supported by a Trains magazine article attributed to September 1943 although the date does not show on the magazine image. Further images show 10 on the WP&YR after the overhual which removed the stack cap and insulated the smokebox. In these images the engine is fitted with a plow, the photo location is Skagway, and is probably Fall 1943 before they went to Whitehorse.
The point which prompted my question is that after returning from Tacoma 10 still has the tender lettered W.P.& Y. R.
If they were Army engines I wonder why the tender isn't labeled USA like the other Army engines?
The confusion is augmented by the quote in the post above from Johnny Graybeal's "Along the ET&WNC" vol 2: which clearly implies they were sent from ET&WNC directly to Tacoma, overhauled, and then sent to Alaska. Of course that's quite unlikely as evidenced by Preston's photo.
Do you have more of the September Trains magazine which confirms that it's 1943, since that's the evidence which supports the 1943 date on the Tacoma photos?
Mike
Subject Author Posted

ET&WNC 10 & 14 *LINK*

WP&Ymike January 20, 2004 11:01PM

Re: ET&WNC 10 & 14

rick b January 21, 2004 01:53AM

There was a lot of confusion in those days.

Bruce Pryor January 21, 2004 09:44PM

Re: There was a lot of confusion in those days.

WP&Ymike January 22, 2004 12:42AM

it is Trains Sept '43

WP&Ymike January 22, 2004 12:53AM

Re: it is Trains Sept '43

rick b January 22, 2004 01:30AM

in WP&YR service Sept '42

WP&Ymike January 22, 2004 01:59AM

Re: There was a lot of confusion in those days.

rick b January 22, 2004 01:05AM

Re: There was a lot of confusion in those days.

WP&Ymike January 22, 2004 01:40AM

Re: There was a lot of confusion in those days.

rick b January 22, 2004 11:31AM

Photos and article *LINK*

Bruce Pryor January 22, 2004 08:09AM

Re: Photos and article

Tim S January 22, 2004 10:57PM

10 & 14 vs 190s

WP&Ymike January 23, 2004 02:35AM

Re: 190 tenderss

Brian Norden January 24, 2004 03:07PM

Re: 190 tenderss

Tim S January 24, 2004 11:00PM

Re: 190 tenders

WP&Ymike January 24, 2004 11:47PM

Re: 190 tenders

Tim S January 24, 2004 11:59PM

Re: 190 tenders

WP&Ymike January 25, 2004 12:27AM

190 oil tender photo

Bruce Pryor January 25, 2004 09:41PM

Re: 190 oil tender photo *LINK*

Brian Norden January 25, 2004 11:01PM

Re: 190 oil tender photo

WP&Ymike January 25, 2004 11:31PM

Re: 190 oil tender photo

Bruce Pryor January 26, 2004 06:37AM

Re: 190 oil tender photo *LINK*

Tim S January 26, 2004 03:15PM

Another 190 photo for Tim *NM* *PIC*

Bruce Pryor January 26, 2004 10:10PM

Re: Photos and article

Casey Carlson January 24, 2004 12:50PM

Re: Really.....

Jerry Huck January 24, 2004 01:34PM

Re: Really.....

Casey Carlson January 24, 2004 03:07PM

Re: Really.....

jbbane January 24, 2004 03:22PM

JB, you forgot

RBrinton January 24, 2004 05:56PM

Re: JB, you forgot

jbbane January 24, 2004 07:13PM

Re: JB, you forgot

Taylor Rush January 25, 2004 12:13PM

Re: JB, you forgot

jbbane January 25, 2004 06:04PM

Re: JB,That was Catapiller

RBrinton January 25, 2004 09:03PM

So I shouldn't mention

James R. Temple January 25, 2004 09:47PM

Don't go this far with the Heisler streamlining! *NM* *LINK* *PIC*

Bruce Pryor January 25, 2004 10:50PM

Re: Photos and article

WP&Ymike January 24, 2004 01:46PM

Re: Photos and article *LINK*

Tim S January 24, 2004 11:17PM

Re: Photos and article *PIC*

WP&Ymike January 25, 2004 12:18AM

Re: Photos and article

Tim S January 25, 2004 12:40AM

Engine House Registers

WP&Ymike January 25, 2004 12:50AM

Thanks, Mike

Bruce Pryor January 25, 2004 10:53PM



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