Re: NNG Stack talk and something different

guymonmd Wrote:
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> edsshay Wrote:
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> > The sounds were incredible plus I have never
> seen
> > an engine pushing the passenger train
> > Ed
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> The D&RGW had a rule that no occupied car could be
> pushed. That is why the pusher engine was cut in
> ahead of the caboose.
> The rule would apply to passenger cars as well. A
> pusher on an occupied passenger train is very
> unusual.

Guy,

you are confusing multiple applications of various eras and operating practices usually pertaining to higher hp locos and standard gauge.

We had no special instructions or rules pertaining to the pushing of Passenger Trains on the rear, and still don't other than the admonition of ensuring the Airbrake is cut through the whole train.


What you see there is a emergency condition to clearing a stalled train from a section, not normal operating practice. I did this once, back in the late 80's and from what I remember I asked the Guard to have everyone seated, not standing or occupying vestibules, and that was only to piss off a couple of photographers I knew were on the train. "Safety" you know I doubt it could be expected to move a car load of passengers forward to stand in the aisle of the next car for some duration.

There are a number of late steam era photographs showing steam Helpers on the rear of Passenger trains in the various RR books. Sherman Hill had a Streamliner pushed. Also the Short Cabooses were pushed on the rear on Cerro and up Lightner creek.