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December 03, 2012 05:06PM
Since people seem to be determined to misrepresent my words:

(1) please show me anyplace where I have attacked a specific person; I have mentioned specific people as those who would be expected to provide evidence of proper procedure if there were such a thing, but I don't see how that is an attack on them.

(2) please show me any place where I have said that the Friends are bad. What I have said is that nobody appears to be interested in proper procedures.

(3) please show me any place where I have said that parts are missing. What I have said is that we are lucky that none is missing.

Lets take several examples.

Lets assume that John Cole (no, he is not a villain .. he is the hero of this pretend story) tells his automobile students to always work on a running automobile outside or in a well-ventilated area. For six straight weeks, one particular student tells John about working in a poorly-ventilated garage. The seventh week the student doesn't show up at all, so John asks the local police to do a "wellness" check. The word comes back that the student had died of carbon monoxide poisoning. Was that student unlucky the seventh week?? I would claim that he was extremely lucky the first six weeks.

Here in New England, lots of people partially heat their homes via a wood fire; in fact, our fireplace is blazing away as I type this. We are told to burn hardwood, because softwood, especially sap-laden pine, can cause creosote buildup in the chimney. Lets suppose I have a neighbor who tells me every day for six years that he is burning pine trees off his lot, thereby saving $250 / cord, or whatever hardwood is going for these days. The seventh year a chimney fire causes his whole house to burn down. Was he unlucky that seventh year?? I would claim that he was lucky those first six years.

Lets say there is a truck driver, say in Texas, who repeatedly starts across a railroad crossing without having room for his rig on the other side. He does that 999 times without incident. The 1000th time, traffic does not move in time, his rig is hit by a train, and people die. Was he unlucky that 1000th time?? I would claim that he was lucky the first 999 times.

You should see the pattern here.

What I have been saying is that there is a best-practices way to restore something historic. From the comments that have been made so far, there doesn't seem to be much evidence (or even belief) that those practices were used on the 463. If they were used, I dearly wish that someone would say so! But, I don't believe that the result of not having lost anything is an endorsement of the methods used. If best-practices were not used, then they were lucky this time, but I hope they don't stretch their luck, that future efforts do use best-practices.
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Update on rebuild of D&RGW # 463

rod November 27, 2012 09:30PM

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Randall Hess December 02, 2012 07:15AM

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Rich Murray December 03, 2012 07:35AM

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Steve Singer December 03, 2012 10:17AM

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mikerowe December 03, 2012 12:05PM

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John Cole December 03, 2012 12:45PM

ONE last try

Randall Hess December 03, 2012 05:06PM

Randall -- Maybe a Time for Reflection?

Dick Cowles December 04, 2012 11:24AM

Bye

Randall Hess December 04, 2012 04:26PM

Re: Bye

waynek December 04, 2012 07:45PM

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mikerowe December 04, 2012 08:25PM

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Dick Cowles December 04, 2012 08:46PM

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Rich Murray December 05, 2012 06:03AM

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Jim Grigsby December 05, 2012 12:24PM

Another Benefit of Having Discussion Boards

Dick Cowles December 05, 2012 01:53PM

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Dick Cowles December 05, 2012 07:50PM

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Dick Cowles December 05, 2012 10:36PM

Re: Update on rebuild of D&RGW # 463

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jalbers November 29, 2012 09:41AM

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CharlieMcCandless November 29, 2012 10:19AM

Re: Rebuild of ex-D&RGW #463 ... eye popping smiley

Russo Loco November 30, 2012 12:38PM

Re: Rebuild of ex-D&RGW #463 ... eye popping smiley

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rod December 01, 2012 12:17PM

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nscaler2 December 03, 2012 07:34AM

Let's Compare #463 to #489

Dick Cowles November 29, 2012 11:35AM

Thanks again to the Friends

John West November 30, 2012 12:42AM

Reason for #463 rebuild

San Juan December 01, 2012 12:19PM

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