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Re: Locomotive Preservation

June 11, 2001 11:16AM
Doug,
I'm currently knee deep into this paradox of a subject with a locomotive in Chile.
Restore or preserve? The best perspective ... at least the one I like the most ... is from Dan Markoff. If you restore a locomotive and run it wisely, the locomotive is kept in the best of shape due to routine maintenance. I go to any locomotive in any park and rest my case.
At the risk of upsetting the NGDF nest, I don't understand the sacred value of keeping locomotives exactly how they were with the same fabric of material that the railroad left them with. For example, I watched piping getting rerouted on a boiler so that it would be historically accurate. Meanwhile, the locomotive boiler condition is in question.
The answer of replicating locomotives was done in Los Angeles in 1975 for the Promontory Utah Transcontinental Railroad Park. O'Conner Engineering Laboratories replicated the Jupiter and 119 at a cost of approx. $1,000,000 each (1975 dollars). O'Conner lost their shirt on the project, but produced 2 perfectly brand new locomotives.
My only other comment is that there is a list of locomotives that would be nice to restore. The 2 risks are (1) taking them apart - and the locomotives remaining that way, and (2)destroying the sacred fabric of the original railroad. There's also a list of groups (D&RGW 315 in Durango, RGS/C&S 74 in Boulder, D&RGW 318 and 346 at CRRM ...) that would appreciate support before considering creating new locos.
Other thoughts?
Subject Author Posted

Locomotive Preservation

Doug Jones June 11, 2001 10:33AM

Re: Locomotive Preservation

Steve Peck June 11, 2001 11:16AM

Re: Locomotive Preservation

freddyb June 11, 2001 01:01PM

Re: Locomotive Preservation

Kevin June 11, 2001 01:32PM

Re: Locomotive Preservation

Kevin June 11, 2001 01:51PM

Re: Locomotive Preservation

Fred T June 11, 2001 01:57PM

Re: Locomotive Preservation

Fred June 11, 2001 02:34PM

Promontory Locos

David Dewey June 11, 2001 02:21PM

You are right/I am wrong

freddyb June 11, 2001 04:02PM

Well, I'm allowed one right answer per year!

David Dewey June 11, 2001 09:56PM

Re: Locomotive Preservation

Mike Stillwell June 11, 2001 06:58PM

Re: Locomotive Preservation

Fred T June 11, 2001 09:24PM

483

Kevin Cook June 12, 2001 09:21AM

Re: 483

freddyb June 12, 2001 10:07AM

Re: 483

Fred T June 12, 2001 10:30AM

Re: 483

Mark Stoeckel June 12, 2001 03:01PM

More info on 483 fund

Mark Stoeckel June 12, 2001 03:19PM

Info on 483 fund

RichB June 12, 2001 04:39PM

Re: Info on 483 fund

Jay Wimer June 13, 2001 12:38PM

Re: Info on 483 fund

Mark Stoeckel June 13, 2001 02:58PM

Re: Info on 483 fund

jay June 13, 2001 04:37PM

Thanks Jay.

RichB June 13, 2001 04:33PM

Re: 483

jaybawb June 13, 2001 12:32PM

Re: 483

freddyb June 13, 2001 12:57PM

Re: 483

jaybawb June 13, 2001 01:18PM

Re: 483

freddyb June 13, 2001 01:59PM

Re: 483

Scott Hightower (Skawt) June 13, 2001 03:31PM

Re: 483 asbestos removal

Fred T June 14, 2001 10:51AM

Re: 483 asbestos removal

Mark Stoeckel June 14, 2001 12:41PM

Re: 483 asbestos removal

Jay June 14, 2001 11:42PM

Re: Locomotive Preservation

Mik June 11, 2001 02:41PM

Chinese?

Steve Peck June 11, 2001 09:35PM

Boiler on Heisler#2

Tom Shreve June 12, 2001 09:48AM

Re: Boiler on Heisler#2

Steve Peck June 12, 2001 02:48PM

Re: Locomotive Preservation

Don Richter June 11, 2001 02:48PM

History

DvV June 12, 2001 09:22PM

Re: History

Don Richter June 13, 2001 09:50AM



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