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Re: The Jupiter

Ed Kelley
September 24, 2004 06:14PM
The one and only photo of the Jupiter on the Santa Cruz Railway was hanging in the restroom of an Erik's Deli Cafe! That was the first time I saw it; and I have a copy somewhere. I think it was the location across from that Fung Lum place in Campbell, or maybe that was an SPC picture...
I last saw the "Jupiter" when it was in the Arts and Industries 'castle' at Smithsonian. "Olomana" was still in the Railroad Hall at this point at the Museum of National History (or I jumbled words...). This was a good many years ago...It was since moved to Arts and Industries...then to the Railroad Museum of Pennsylvania (still on its original display stand, sans the legs)...and now is going to the National Museum of Industrial History at the old Bethlehem Steel Mill in Bethlehem, PA! The Smithsonian also parted with the Cumberland Valley RR "Pioneer" for this museum. "Olomana" probably would be a perfect display over at the CSRM's new museum (when it ever gets built) since it showcases industrial railroad history I believe and Hawaiian sugar cane/plantation industries would be well represented...and of course Jerry Best restored her and had her in California from the late 40s to maybe the late 70s or early 80s? Beautiful locomotive. I'm presuming the Kiso engine is still at the CSRM as well.
The Jupiter worked for the IRCA I believe...no surprise by its appearance. An 1875 Baldwin (a Mogul this time) was acquired from IRCA and WAS to run at Great America in Illinois (Denis Larrick, not sure if you frequent here...Denis wrote a great article on the steamers acquired that never made it to run at the park).
The stack is very similiar; the picture of it on the SCRY shows an unusual wood-burning stack. This 2-6-0 was at the Prairie Village Museum in Minnesota, and is now at the End O' Line Railroad Park in Currie, Minnesota. There's some sort of rideable railway outside as well.
Phil; I didn't know that F. Norman had wanted the Jupiter...it certainly would be more suitable to be in the Santa Cruz area considering that the NG engines that ran there are all gone; scrapped...or "hidden in a landslide". Would have made a fine sight in operation at Roaring Camp if it took to the grades alright! Of course part of the reason F. Norman headed up to the area was he had heard about Fair's SPC line. I had heard that he always envisioned an 1880s logging railroad; however, the Roaring Camp logo has always to my memory been the wood-burning 4-4-0 on the trestle...similar to those used on the SC&F/SPC/etc. The logo is on lots of the merchandise if I can remember sold at the General Store.
On another note, when I go on Sunday to see the Hawaii Ry #5 and two ex-Sundown & Southern gondolas running...apparently F.Norman also had saved #5 and had planned a museum for Hawaiian narrow gauge out in Oahu I believe. His wife, Georgiana (current RC CEO) is from there, perhaps he got out to visit and got intrigued with plantation railways...or he probably already knew about them!
I have no idea who frequents the good old boards here...Mike Piersa (if he's around here) can shed light on the NMIH at Bethlehem Steel...and Denis Larrick about that 2-6-0 from IRCA.
Keep Steaming,
Ed Kelley
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