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Several comments about this great article

Brian Shoup
January 27, 2004 02:22PM
I really appreciated the fine coverage by Kit Miniclier. I’d like to add a couple of points. Please note in his article, the single quotation marks around the phrase "obscene profits" indicating the tongue-in-cheek nature of this remark. I explained to Kit that the previous three operators AND the RGRPC labored hard under a lease arrangement that was NOT financially viable. I told him that historically the operator had been responsible for a number of cost areas that, although termed as “maintenance”, were actually capital expenses, which realistically couldn’t be borne by the operator.
I further explained that under the lease agreements, previous operators, including the RGRPC, had to cover all these expenses and shoulder 100% of the risk, all for the privilege of being able to sit back and reap obscene profits. I added that I was obviously being facetious about the profits. We both laughed. I stated that no operator under that arrangement has ever likely gotten a decent return on its investment and that probably some have gone nearly broke.
I said that the current management contract model offers a more rational approach to contracted operations and financing.
A second point I wish to make is that my remark in the article about 50,000 - 60,000 riders/year achieving self-sufficiency is accurate as far as it goes. What was left out was that I had explained that these volumes could probably generate enough revenue for covering OPERATIONAL expenses, though not capital expenses. In fact, this is the prime directive coming from the NM Legislative Finance Committee (LFC). It wants to provide temporary operating subsidies to get us quickly to a point where the railroad can generate sufficient income to cover its own operating expenses. The LFC wants to then limit its support to covering capital items, e.g. major trackwork, locomotive rebuilds, etc. LFC members stated this clearly in Chama last August and the LFC staff is following this policy. The matter of operational self-sufficiency is simply not debatable. The C&TS has been told that it must become self-sufficient from an operating standpoint.
Kit and I spoke for almost an hour covering many complex issues, each one having the potential for missing a fact here or a comment there that that might alter the meaning slightly or give rise to inferences other than what was intended. He wrote an excellent article that was remarkably on target, given the volume of information he heard from me and later from Richard Gomez. If I were in his shoes I don't think I could have gotten it nearly as accurate as he did. Kit Miniclier is a good reporter and a solid supporter of the RR. I look forward to reading more of his work on the railroad.
Brian Shoup
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C&TS on front page of Denver Post *NM* *LINK*

Glen Brewer January 27, 2004 06:49AM

Re: C&TS on front page of Denver Post

Rich Muth January 27, 2004 07:12AM

Re: C&TS on front page of Denver Post

Les Clark January 27, 2004 08:55AM

Several comments about this great article

Brian Shoup January 27, 2004 02:22PM

Thanks Mr. Shoup

roger hogan January 27, 2004 02:56PM

Re: Several comments about this great article

Dale Brown January 27, 2004 08:59PM

Yo, Padre!

Crayuft January 28, 2004 05:57AM

I take strong exception to your comments.

El Coke January 28, 2004 02:10PM

Yes, but.....

John West January 28, 2004 03:17PM

Re: Yes, but.....what don't you understand?

Chris Callaway January 28, 2004 08:57PM

Maintenance

John Bush January 29, 2004 08:03AM

The usual photographic evidence... *LINK* *PIC*

John West January 29, 2004 01:18PM

Re: thanks, but . . . *PIC*

Crayuft January 29, 2004 03:41PM

Part of the quote was...

El Coke January 31, 2004 08:04PM

not exactly

John Craft February 01, 2004 01:06PM

The other offensive statement...but...

El RC February 01, 2004 09:19PM

I also say "not exactly"

El Coke February 01, 2004 10:49PM

Re: I also say "not exactly"

John Craft February 02, 2004 05:25AM

Back channel me , then .

El Coke February 02, 2004 06:04PM

Re: Back channel me , then .

Les Clark February 03, 2004 01:01PM

Your answer is back channeled

El Coke February 03, 2004 02:24PM

Re: The usual photographic evidence...

Earl January 31, 2004 05:20PM

Re: Maintenance

chris ahrens January 30, 2004 04:03PM

Re: Maintenance

John Bush January 31, 2004 06:49AM

A hole in the water

Don Richter January 31, 2004 08:11AM

Re: Maintenance

chris ahrens January 31, 2004 09:01AM

Bid Proposals by the WP &Y

Robby Peartree January 31, 2004 09:17PM

Re: Bid Proposals by the WP &Y

John Bush February 01, 2004 09:01AM

Re: Bid Proposals by the WP &Y

John Cole February 01, 2004 11:55AM

Re: Maintenance

Dick Cowles February 03, 2004 04:58PM

Re: Maintenance

Linn W. Moedinger February 04, 2004 05:45AM

Not a way to get rich

Claude Wiatrowski February 05, 2004 09:09AM

Re: Not a way to get rich

WP&Ymike February 05, 2004 03:13PM

How to make a million dollars

RBrinton February 05, 2004 04:00PM

Re: How to make a million dollars

El Skonk February 05, 2004 05:38PM

Re: How to make a million dollars

Hoss - The Wideload February 05, 2004 08:39PM

Re: How to make a million dollars

WP&Ymike February 06, 2004 04:52AM

Really, millions wIth Steam Railroad

steve thompson February 06, 2004 08:00AM

Re: Really, millions wIth Steam Railroad

Steve Singer February 06, 2004 08:09AM

Ask and you might receive

Robby Peartree February 05, 2004 10:20AM

Here's the Correct Link: *LINK*

Mike Trent January 30, 2004 09:04PM



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