Re: Just Some Hype.
| April 21, 2018 07:58AM |
First off it looks like a D&S person already replied that they "Would Consider It". So I don't understand what the answer to this thread is supposed to be, except for hypotheticals.
The D&RGW probably ran some snow fighting trains with 3 engines, or some other special situation. I know they ran some doubleheaders, and some where the engines were split about 3-4 cars for the high bridge weight restriction.
As for the 3 K-28's, 478 isn't even ready yet. If one wanted to see three engines, you could probably go with three they already have running, unless your point is to have all three of the 470's only!!!
In regard to 3 engine trains in general, I remember seeing 3 engine trains 2 different times on the C&TS (John Craft Trips in 1992), and an abbreviated trip in May 1993 with 3 engines. In both instances there were two engines up front(And yes they had to be split for Lobato Trestle), and one on the rear ahead of the caboose as Earl indicated.
There are some who want to run all the power up front so the power is seen in the frame, giving more bang for the buck so to speak. I know an outfit from the UK and one in Chama who ran doubleheader and triple header trains just cause "They Can". Most of the guys are still photographers and if multiple engines are used they want to get them all in the same frame up close. You got the money, anything is possible.
I prefer to do things somewhat authentic if possible, because "We Can". How many other places in North America can you replicate such trains as they do on the C&TS. Same engines, and lots of them, plus track the D&RGW used, and all the other "Features" of this former D&RGW line. When a person does a charter, they have the right to configure it any way they wish, and hope enough loyal photographs like it enough to pony-up the coin to buy the ticket and add the travel costs. Again no right or wrong way, but folks do have their preferences.
If the goal is to see as many engines as possible all running together, then I will have to say I have seen 5 engines on the C&TS running together all coupled together from the Chama wye back to the yard. Each took turns blowing for the highway crossing. So is 5 engines better than 3????
One thing I always thought would be great for C&TS charters would be a mixed train. This way you could slap a coach and caboose on the rear and have a nice place for riders. However, as far as I know they never ran such trains over Cumbres pass. The Silverton line however did have a mixed train. But most of those had green coaches.
My philosophy on all this is I am happy both the D&S and C&TS are healthy, and can field so many operational engines. Its impressive to think the D&S added 476 back to the roster, and perhaps C&TS will add 168 to the operating list. All this in an era that is seeing fewer and fewer mainline steam excursions on standard gauge railroads. Enjoy em while you can!
Greg Scholl
[www.gregschollvideo.com]
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 04/21/2018 08:00AM by Greg Scholl.
The D&RGW probably ran some snow fighting trains with 3 engines, or some other special situation. I know they ran some doubleheaders, and some where the engines were split about 3-4 cars for the high bridge weight restriction.
As for the 3 K-28's, 478 isn't even ready yet. If one wanted to see three engines, you could probably go with three they already have running, unless your point is to have all three of the 470's only!!!
In regard to 3 engine trains in general, I remember seeing 3 engine trains 2 different times on the C&TS (John Craft Trips in 1992), and an abbreviated trip in May 1993 with 3 engines. In both instances there were two engines up front(And yes they had to be split for Lobato Trestle), and one on the rear ahead of the caboose as Earl indicated.
There are some who want to run all the power up front so the power is seen in the frame, giving more bang for the buck so to speak. I know an outfit from the UK and one in Chama who ran doubleheader and triple header trains just cause "They Can". Most of the guys are still photographers and if multiple engines are used they want to get them all in the same frame up close. You got the money, anything is possible.
I prefer to do things somewhat authentic if possible, because "We Can". How many other places in North America can you replicate such trains as they do on the C&TS. Same engines, and lots of them, plus track the D&RGW used, and all the other "Features" of this former D&RGW line. When a person does a charter, they have the right to configure it any way they wish, and hope enough loyal photographs like it enough to pony-up the coin to buy the ticket and add the travel costs. Again no right or wrong way, but folks do have their preferences.
If the goal is to see as many engines as possible all running together, then I will have to say I have seen 5 engines on the C&TS running together all coupled together from the Chama wye back to the yard. Each took turns blowing for the highway crossing. So is 5 engines better than 3????
One thing I always thought would be great for C&TS charters would be a mixed train. This way you could slap a coach and caboose on the rear and have a nice place for riders. However, as far as I know they never ran such trains over Cumbres pass. The Silverton line however did have a mixed train. But most of those had green coaches.
My philosophy on all this is I am happy both the D&S and C&TS are healthy, and can field so many operational engines. Its impressive to think the D&S added 476 back to the roster, and perhaps C&TS will add 168 to the operating list. All this in an era that is seeing fewer and fewer mainline steam excursions on standard gauge railroads. Enjoy em while you can!
Greg Scholl
[www.gregschollvideo.com]
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 04/21/2018 08:00AM by Greg Scholl.
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