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Re: 195 Cosmetic Restoration

July 24, 2013 12:07AM avatar
Based on the "Haulage Capacity of Engines" table posted above, the 190's are only capable of 100 tons. However, other formulas state otherwise, even recently discussed in another thread here. My calculations based on the ALCO engine hand book show the 190's are capable of 20,100 lbs. of tractive effort, vs. the 16,000 lbs. listed above. The 70 classes are listed with only 21,600, while the tractive effort formula produces a higher number of 25,200. If the 195 were to ever operate again, it should be good for 4-5 cars up the pass.

It is my opinion that inexperienced crews did not take well to the engines because they didn't have much experience with superheated engines, and light ones at that. The 70's had front end throttles, while the Rio Grande K-28's were heavy in comparison. 190's aren't bad engines, they just weren't designed with the White Pass in mind. They take a lot of finesse on wet rail, and coupled with the mind set that the engines were not built to last forever, had the cards stacked against them in terms of favorability.

The spring rigging is missing, but could be replaced with new hangers, saddles, and spring packs. The trailing and pilot truck still have their equalizers and springs, and the driving boxes are blocked. The boiler has no tubes, front flue sheet, or superheaters, but the header, delivery pipes, and braces are still intact, along with the firebox. You don't really need any of that for a cosmetic restoration, but it's good to assess for the future.

I'll admit, the first time I fired 192 up the hill, I was appalled. After working on it awhile, it grew on me. They are a good example of technology for the time period, and tell an interesting story if you know how to read between the lines.

John Hillier
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