September 13, 2004 06:10PM
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You say that you have read all of the threads. Did you read the part in the RFP that said that even though you could submit a counter proposal, you had to agree to the conditions of the RFP and that the CHS would be the one's to decide which proposal would be used!!
Perhaps you haven't fully comprehended that little caveat (of course, it was well stated and explained in the rest of the thread!) Let's try it again (for the slower students in the class...) The CHS broke off negotiations by submitting a "final and non-negotiable offer" which was completely unacceptable to the GLRR Inc.
The CHS went ahead and posted for submission of bids based on an RFP which the GLRR Inc. couldn't agree to. Are we all together so far? Okay....
Three bids were submitted. NONE of the bids complied with the posted RFP! (Now here is where it gets tricky so pay attention!) The CHS has not yet AWARDED the contract. All they have done is say that Railstar submitted the winning bid (it's a small disinction but in legalese a potentially critical one!)
Railstar has said that they don't have a steam engine and will probably have to use diesels for the first year or two of operations. Now, it's entirely within the CHS's purvue to decide whether to let Railstar slide with their "counter proposal" but the key is that IT'S THE CHS'S CHOICE!!
You make the argument that the GLRR Inc. should have submitted a proposal and since they didn't they have no room to complain. I would respectfully state that you are in error.
Under the present circumstances, it would have been extremely inadvisable from a financial standpoint as the conditions of the RFP would have legally bound the GLRR Inc. to a contract that, in their opinion, was completely untenable and, if anything, even worse than when negotiations broke down!
Everything would be moot if Railstar was able to abide by the original conditions set down by the RFP. Here's the problem: (you still following me?) it was a no-win situation for the GLRR Inc.!
Also, since no bidder even came close to abiding by the RFP in their bid there are guidelines which the CHS (as a government agency) is bound by regulations to follow. The fact that this is not being done is the main crux of the problem...currently.
The CHS seems so hell-bent on kicking out the GLRR Inc. that one has to wonder why? Unfortunately, the CHS has given NO reason other than to state that the GLRR Inc. didn't submit a bid! (Now, I've got to stop for a moment for a quick personal commentary: "phblttttttt!") As has been shown by way that the RFP was written, the GLRR Inc. was put in a compromised position!
Again, if there was just cause for the CHS to seek a different operator this whole discussion would be moot. To date, the CHS has yet to specify EVEN ONE reason to wish the GLRR Inc. gone! In fact, when specifically asked about disparaging comments made by Lee Behren's about the current operators, the CHS's president, Ms. Contigulianna denied any knowledge!
So, steveb, THIS is why we are upset and feel that the CHS is being dishonest and disingenuous. As to your assertions that the GLRR Inc. (and by association ourselves) have no just cause to complain by reason of not submitting a bid........well, you are entitled to your opinion.
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Kerry Ann |
September 02, 2004 11:45AM |
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Douglas vV |
September 02, 2004 12:24PM |
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Stephen Peck |
September 02, 2004 12:58PM |
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SZuiderveen |
September 02, 2004 02:37PM |
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Stephen Peck |
September 02, 2004 02:56PM |
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John |
September 02, 2004 04:01PM |
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Chris Webster |
September 02, 2004 09:54PM |
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John Fisher |
September 03, 2004 09:52AM |
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Jason Midyette |
September 02, 2004 07:22PM |
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SZuiderveen |
September 02, 2004 07:46PM |
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Stephen Peck |
September 02, 2004 08:19PM |
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Randy Buchter |
September 02, 2004 09:20PM |
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Jim Poston |
September 03, 2004 10:07AM |
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Douglas vV |
September 03, 2004 10:53AM |
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Fritz Klinke |
September 03, 2004 07:52PM |
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Hobosteve |
September 13, 2004 08:20AM |
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Skip Luke |
September 04, 2004 12:46PM |
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Steve Stockham |
September 05, 2004 08:46AM |
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Jim Poston |
September 05, 2004 10:56AM |
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Taylor Rush |
September 06, 2004 12:24AM |
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Steve Stockham |
September 06, 2004 07:26AM |
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M. Peterson |
September 06, 2004 08:40AM |
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Wooly |
September 06, 2004 08:50AM |
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Wooly |
September 06, 2004 08:54AM |
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South Park |
September 06, 2004 10:17AM |
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roger hogan |
September 06, 2004 12:39PM |
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Rick Steele |
September 05, 2004 12:29PM |
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Fritz Klinke |
September 05, 2004 09:20PM |
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Ken Graczyk |
September 05, 2004 09:38PM |
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Fritz Klinke |
September 06, 2004 04:02AM |
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Rick Steele |
September 06, 2004 08:09PM |
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Stephen Peck |
September 06, 2004 08:23PM |
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Rick Steele |
September 06, 2004 08:36PM |
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Skip Luke |
September 07, 2004 09:41AM |
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Stephen Peck |
September 06, 2004 04:46AM |
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Skip |
September 05, 2004 10:02PM |
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Fritz Klinke |
September 06, 2004 04:17AM |
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Stephen Peck |
September 06, 2004 07:18AM |
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Michael Allen |
September 06, 2004 09:12AM |
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J |
September 06, 2004 09:34PM |
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Natasha Bettis |
September 06, 2004 11:15PM |
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Robert |
September 07, 2004 07:02AM |
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Don Richter |
September 07, 2004 08:12AM |
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Scott Hightower |
September 07, 2004 08:55AM |
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Natasha Bettis |
September 07, 2004 06:12PM |
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Scott Hightower |
September 08, 2004 09:12AM |
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Skip Luke |
September 07, 2004 09:44AM |
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Steve Stockham |
September 06, 2004 09:24AM |
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Don Richter |
September 06, 2004 09:40AM |
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Douglas vV |
September 06, 2004 10:36AM |
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Wooly |
September 06, 2004 12:33PM |
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Don Richter |
September 06, 2004 02:15PM |
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Steve Stockham |
September 06, 2004 03:13PM |
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Chris Weaver |
September 06, 2004 10:31PM |
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Steve Stockham |
September 08, 2004 12:40PM |
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Rick Steele |
September 06, 2004 08:18PM |
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Andy Roth |
September 07, 2004 01:26PM |
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Skip Luke |
September 06, 2004 07:42PM |
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Skip |
September 05, 2004 09:48PM |
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Roger Mitchell |
September 06, 2004 06:40PM |
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Rick Steele |
September 06, 2004 08:24PM |
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Skip Luke |
September 07, 2004 09:58AM |
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Rick Steele |
September 07, 2004 10:52AM |
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Skip Luke |
September 07, 2004 11:05AM |
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Rick Steele |
September 07, 2004 03:58PM |
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Skip Luke |
September 07, 2004 06:42PM |
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Dan |
September 07, 2004 06:26PM |
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Gregory Raven |
September 06, 2004 09:38PM |
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Stephen Peck |
September 06, 2004 09:59PM |
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Tim Schreiner |
September 06, 2004 10:26PM |
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Robert |
September 07, 2004 06:53AM |
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Skip Luke |
September 07, 2004 10:11AM |
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Rick Steele |
September 07, 2004 10:55AM |
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Taylor Rush |
September 07, 2004 12:12PM |
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Skip Luke |
September 07, 2004 06:46PM |
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Taylor Rush |
September 07, 2004 09:24PM |
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Skip Luke |
September 07, 2004 10:05AM |
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Olaf the Red |
September 07, 2004 04:26PM |
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Skip Luke |
September 07, 2004 06:50PM |
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Steve Stockham |
September 10, 2004 06:30AM |
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Ed Kelley |
September 11, 2004 12:28PM |
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Paul Hagglund |
September 11, 2004 01:11PM |
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Olaf the Red |
September 13, 2004 07:48AM |
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Kerry Ann |
September 05, 2004 01:00PM |
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John |
September 05, 2004 07:37PM |
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Chris Webster |
September 05, 2004 08:47PM |
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Skip |
September 05, 2004 09:58PM |
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Kerry Ann |
September 05, 2004 10:01PM |
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John |
September 06, 2004 08:32AM |
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Kerry Ann |
September 06, 2004 01:57AM |
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Watching in Chama |
September 07, 2004 06:53PM |
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Mike Trent |
September 13, 2004 10:37AM |
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steveb |
September 13, 2004 02:52PM |
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Mike Trent |
September 13, 2004 03:07PM |
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Jim Poston |
September 13, 2004 03:12PM |
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steveb |
September 13, 2004 03:29PM |
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Tim Schreiner |
September 13, 2004 05:11PM |
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Wooly |
September 13, 2004 05:23PM |
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Stephen Peck |
September 13, 2004 05:32PM |
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Steve Stockham |
September 13, 2004 06:10PM |
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Michael Allen |
September 13, 2004 06:33PM |
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Wooly |
September 13, 2004 08:09PM |
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Robert |
September 14, 2004 08:33AM |
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Don Richter |
September 14, 2004 08:42AM |
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Skip Luke |
September 14, 2004 11:25AM |
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Karasu |
September 15, 2004 10:36AM |
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John |
September 13, 2004 08:07PM |
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Wooly |
September 13, 2004 08:12PM |
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Stephen Peck |
September 13, 2004 09:25PM |
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Craig LeVay |
September 14, 2004 04:08AM |
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Stephen Peck |
September 14, 2004 09:59AM |
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sboothr1@earthlink.net |
September 14, 2004 05:56PM |
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Kerry Ann |
September 14, 2004 06:25PM |
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Stephen Peck |
September 14, 2004 06:39PM |
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John |
September 14, 2004 07:48AM |
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Kerry Ann |
September 14, 2004 09:18AM |
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John |
September 14, 2004 02:12PM |
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Skip Luke |
September 14, 2004 04:55PM |
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