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Re: To 'steveb'

September 13, 2004 06:10PM
You say that you have read all of the threads. Did you read the part in the RFP that said that even though you could submit a counter proposal, you had to agree to the conditions of the RFP and that the CHS would be the one's to decide which proposal would be used!!
Perhaps you haven't fully comprehended that little caveat (of course, it was well stated and explained in the rest of the thread!) Let's try it again (for the slower students in the class...) The CHS broke off negotiations by submitting a "final and non-negotiable offer" which was completely unacceptable to the GLRR Inc.
The CHS went ahead and posted for submission of bids based on an RFP which the GLRR Inc. couldn't agree to. Are we all together so far? Okay....
Three bids were submitted. NONE of the bids complied with the posted RFP! (Now here is where it gets tricky so pay attention!) The CHS has not yet AWARDED the contract. All they have done is say that Railstar submitted the winning bid (it's a small disinction but in legalese a potentially critical one!)
Railstar has said that they don't have a steam engine and will probably have to use diesels for the first year or two of operations. Now, it's entirely within the CHS's purvue to decide whether to let Railstar slide with their "counter proposal" but the key is that IT'S THE CHS'S CHOICE!!
You make the argument that the GLRR Inc. should have submitted a proposal and since they didn't they have no room to complain. I would respectfully state that you are in error.
Under the present circumstances, it would have been extremely inadvisable from a financial standpoint as the conditions of the RFP would have legally bound the GLRR Inc. to a contract that, in their opinion, was completely untenable and, if anything, even worse than when negotiations broke down!
Everything would be moot if Railstar was able to abide by the original conditions set down by the RFP. Here's the problem: (you still following me?) it was a no-win situation for the GLRR Inc.!
Also, since no bidder even came close to abiding by the RFP in their bid there are guidelines which the CHS (as a government agency) is bound by regulations to follow. The fact that this is not being done is the main crux of the problem...currently.
The CHS seems so hell-bent on kicking out the GLRR Inc. that one has to wonder why? Unfortunately, the CHS has given NO reason other than to state that the GLRR Inc. didn't submit a bid! (Now, I've got to stop for a moment for a quick personal commentary: "phblttttttt!") As has been shown by way that the RFP was written, the GLRR Inc. was put in a compromised position!
Again, if there was just cause for the CHS to seek a different operator this whole discussion would be moot. To date, the CHS has yet to specify EVEN ONE reason to wish the GLRR Inc. gone! In fact, when specifically asked about disparaging comments made by Lee Behren's about the current operators, the CHS's president, Ms. Contigulianna denied any knowledge!
So, steveb, THIS is why we are upset and feel that the CHS is being dishonest and disingenuous. As to your assertions that the GLRR Inc. (and by association ourselves) have no just cause to complain by reason of not submitting a bid........well, you are entitled to your opinion.
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Railstar's Proposal

Kerry Ann September 02, 2004 11:45AM

Re: Railstar's Proposal

Douglas vV September 02, 2004 12:24PM

Re: Railstar's Proposal

Stephen Peck September 02, 2004 12:58PM

Re: Railstar's Proposal

SZuiderveen September 02, 2004 02:37PM

Where's the train? *LINK*

Stephen Peck September 02, 2004 02:56PM

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John September 02, 2004 04:01PM

Re: Railstar's Proposal

Chris Webster September 02, 2004 09:54PM

Re: Railstar's Proposal

John Fisher September 03, 2004 09:52AM

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Re: Railstar's Proposal

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Re: Railstar's Proposal

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Re: Railstar's Proposal

Randy Buchter September 02, 2004 09:20PM

Motive Power and Rolling Stock *LINK*

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Re: Motive Power and Rolling Stock

Douglas vV September 03, 2004 10:53AM

Re: Motive Power and Rolling Stock

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Re: Motive Power and Rolling Stock

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Trashing Silver Plume Depot

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Steve Stockham September 05, 2004 08:46AM

You Can Respond *LINK*

Jim Poston September 05, 2004 10:56AM

Question...

Taylor Rush September 06, 2004 12:24AM

Re: Question...

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Re: And Another Question...

M. Peterson September 06, 2004 08:40AM

Re: And Another Question...

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Re: And Another Question...

Wooly September 06, 2004 08:54AM

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History & Concessions

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Ken Graczyk September 05, 2004 09:38PM

Re: Trashing Depot - Fritz v Rick

Fritz Klinke September 06, 2004 04:02AM

Re: Trashing Depot - Fritz v Rick

Rick Steele September 06, 2004 08:09PM

extemporaneously? *LINK* *PIC*

Stephen Peck September 06, 2004 08:23PM

Re: extemporaneously?

Rick Steele September 06, 2004 08:36PM

Re: extemporaneously?

Skip Luke September 07, 2004 09:41AM

Trash

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Skip September 05, 2004 10:02PM

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Fritz Klinke September 06, 2004 04:17AM

GLR, Inc. wants to stay. *PIC*

Stephen Peck September 06, 2004 07:18AM

Re: GLR, Inc. wants to stay.

Michael Allen September 06, 2004 09:12AM

Re: GLR, Inc. wants to stay.

J September 06, 2004 09:34PM

Blew it big time? Slow down there, Ace...

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Re: Blew it big time? Slow down there, Ace...

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Re: Blew it big time? Slow down there, Ace...

Don Richter September 07, 2004 08:12AM

Thanks for the ride yesterday

Scott Hightower September 07, 2004 08:55AM

Re: Thanks for the ride yesterday

Natasha Bettis September 07, 2004 06:12PM

Re: Thanks for the ride yesterday

Scott Hightower September 08, 2004 09:12AM

Re: GLR, Inc. wants to stay.

Skip Luke September 07, 2004 09:44AM

Re: GLR, Inc. wants to stay.

Steve Stockham September 06, 2004 09:24AM

Re: GLR, Inc. wants to stay. *PIC*

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Re: GLR, Inc. wants to stay.

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Re: GLR, Inc. wants to stay.

Steve Stockham September 06, 2004 03:13PM

#30 is not a problem.

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Re: #30 is not a problem.

Steve Stockham September 08, 2004 12:40PM

Re: GLR, Inc. wants to stay.

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Re: GLR, Inc. wants to stay.---CHS accounting prob

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Skip Luke September 06, 2004 07:42PM

Sad but true...... *NM*

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Re: Trashing Silver Plume Depot *LINK*

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Plume Telegraph *LINK* *PIC*

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Re: Plume Telegraph

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Soda...

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Re: Railstar's Proposal

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John September 05, 2004 07:37PM

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Chris Webster September 05, 2004 08:47PM

Re: Railstar's Proposal

Skip September 05, 2004 09:58PM

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steveb September 13, 2004 02:52PM

Re: Railstar's Proposal

Mike Trent September 13, 2004 03:07PM

To 'steveb' *LINK*

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steveb September 13, 2004 03:29PM

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Re: To 'steveb'

Wooly September 13, 2004 08:09PM

Re: To 'steveb' *LINK*

Robert September 14, 2004 08:33AM

Motives

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Re: 'steveb' ?? really ...

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Re: 'steveb' ?? really ...

Karasu September 15, 2004 10:36AM

Re: Railstar's Proposal

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Re: Railstar's Proposal

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20 days *LINK* *PIC*

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Re: 20 days

Craig LeVay September 14, 2004 04:08AM

Danger Ahead - Historic Railway Disasters *LINK*

Stephen Peck September 14, 2004 09:59AM

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Re: Danger Ahead - Historic Railway Disasters

Kerry Ann September 14, 2004 06:25PM

sorry about that

Stephen Peck September 14, 2004 06:39PM

Re: 20 days

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