Re: San Juan Equipment now.... A San Juan Recreation
| February 19, 2020 10:15PM |
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Joe Weigman Wrote:
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> I'd say the closed vestibule coaches at Knotts are
> more faithful to their original appearance,
> despite the metal platform steps and the removal
> of windowpanes. (Not including the ChamaParlor
> Car combine) the D&S closed vestibule coaches
> look similar but the D&RGW replaced the wood
> siding with corrugated steel and removed the
> vestibule doors in the 60s. Knotts and the D&S
> Removed the Wood Stoves and Chimneys as well, but
> the cars at Knotts have almost all the original
> furnishings that haven't been tampered with since
> they were delivered from the D&RGW, but the D&SNG
> has replaced the interior walls, removed the
> original ceiling lamps/lights, and mode other
> modifications that wouldn't look well when
> compared to the C&TS' restorations of the RPO 54
> and Baggage Car 163.
Actually all three coaches at the farm still have their COAL fired stoves, and chimneys. 2 of them still have the cool art deco metal surround. Yes nearly all the interior panels are still from the D&RGW but the lights have been changed, the Haywood and wakefield seats are gone. On the outside they no longer have the diaphragm frames and the conduit on the roofs have been removed.(a manager a long time ago wanted to make the cars more "streamlined" or "clean looking".
To be fair none of the surviving San Juan and Shavano(326 was used on the Shavano first) coaches are correct anymore. They all have there issues. The parlor buffet cars are also not completely accurate. Durga go is close, but has some upgrades. IE newer toilets, and a generator.
Also the D&S has RPO 66, and baggage 126, but one is OS and the other is a concession car with no baggage door.
CRRM has RPO 60, baggage 168, and coach 284. The later was used in consist with the San Juan to Antonito.
I'll also add that the other issue at KBF aside from the politics and management stuff is a complete lack of a loading facility. We were facing this same issue when preparing to send goose 3 to Golden in 2012.
Jeff Taylor
CRRM curator of equipment and rolling stock.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/20/2020 09:50PM by Jeff Taylor.
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> I'd say the closed vestibule coaches at Knotts are
> more faithful to their original appearance,
> despite the metal platform steps and the removal
> of windowpanes. (Not including the Chama
> Car
> look similar but the D&RGW replaced the wood
> siding with corrugated steel and removed the
> vestibule doors in the 60s. Knotts and the D&S
> Removed the Wood Stoves and Chimneys as well, but
> the cars at Knotts have almost all the original
> furnishings that haven't been tampered with since
> they were delivered from the D&RGW, but the D&SNG
> has replaced the interior walls, removed the
> original ceiling lamps/lights, and mode other
> modifications that wouldn't look well when
> compared to the C&TS' restorations of the RPO 54
> and Baggage Car 163.
Actually all three coaches at the farm still have their COAL fired stoves, and chimneys. 2 of them still have the cool art deco metal surround. Yes nearly all the interior panels are still from the D&RGW but the lights have been changed, the Haywood and wakefield seats are gone. On the outside they no longer have the diaphragm frames and the conduit on the roofs have been removed.(a manager a long time ago wanted to make the cars more "streamlined" or "clean looking".
To be fair none of the surviving San Juan and Shavano(326 was used on the Shavano first) coaches are correct anymore. They all have there issues. The parlor buffet cars are also not completely accurate. Durga go is close, but has some upgrades. IE newer toilets, and a generator.
Also the D&S has RPO 66, and baggage 126, but one is OS and the other is a concession car with no baggage door.
CRRM has RPO 60, baggage 168, and coach 284. The later was used in consist with the San Juan to Antonito.
I'll also add that the other issue at KBF aside from the politics and management stuff is a complete lack of a loading facility. We were facing this same issue when preparing to send goose 3 to Golden in 2012.
Jeff Taylor
CRRM curator of equipment and rolling stock.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/20/2020 09:50PM by Jeff Taylor.
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