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Re: D&S and WSLCo.dual air systems

July 12, 2000 06:43PM
I also feel that the Automatic air is safer over the range of situations. However, on long grades an inexperienced engineer can be "out of air" with the automatic system. If the engineer cycles his brakes too often or too quickly, he will deplete the air in the resevoir, and have released the air from the cylinder. the result is no brakes and no air. The obvious solution to this problem is the retainers,which hold the air in the cylinder longer durning a "release", allowing the resevoirs to completely recharge.
Also, if the brake pipe is reduced to 65psi (assuming a normal 90psi brake pipe), further reductions of the brake pipe do not yeild any more braking power. This is true on the old K valves and such. The newer AB, ABD, etc brake valves also employ an emergency resevoir that would further increase the air pressure, but the train has to go into emergency to do it. This is a problem if the brakes are not able to hold the train back, or if too much of the trains brakes are cut out. (As I'm sure you know, no more than 80% of any train's brakes may be inoperative at any time, 0% is favorable, obviously)
The benifit of the straight air system is that it does not leak down provided that the straight air train line is intact. YOu never run out of air on a straight air system--> unless you separate or loose a hose. Then the operation of the Automatic system becomes imperative.
The result is that the straight air system reduces the chance of a runnaway, but only if combined with the Automatic system as an immediate back up. Likewise, running out of air on an Automatic system is fatal, unless backed up by a functioning straight air system.
The bottom line is to have good operative systems, know how to uses them, and don't take unnecessary chances.
My penny and a half's worth!
Ryan Scott
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Train Handling

Rick July 09, 2000 08:57PM

Re: Train Handling

Rick Steele July 10, 2000 08:21AM

6-ET and "mountain cocks".

El Coke July 10, 2000 08:48AM

Overheating Tires on the D&S

Herb Kelsey July 10, 2000 11:37AM

Not the tires ,Herb

El Coke July 10, 2000 03:01PM

Re: Not the tires ,Herb

Herb Kelsey July 10, 2000 05:00PM

Straight Air on the D&S?

Brian Norden July 10, 2000 08:43PM

D&S and WSLCo.dual air systems

El Coke July 11, 2000 09:11AM

Thanks for the explaination *NM*

Brian Norden July 11, 2000 10:14PM

Re: D&S and WSLCo.dual air systems

Ryan Scott July 12, 2000 06:43PM

Shortcycling

El Coke July 12, 2000 10:28PM

Re: Shortcycling

Ryan Scott July 13, 2000 06:16AM

Re: Shortcycling

Rick Steele July 13, 2000 08:07AM

Re: Shortcycling

Mike Ramsey July 13, 2000 06:46PM

Hall of Fame/hall of shame.

El Coke July 14, 2000 09:07PM

Re: Not the tires ,Herb

Michael Allen July 10, 2000 09:48PM

Downhill running

El Coke July 11, 2000 09:35AM

Re: Downhill running

Michael Allen July 11, 2000 01:28PM

Slack Action

Hoss July 11, 2000 10:03PM

Re: Slack Action

Brian Norden July 11, 2000 10:22PM

Re: Slack Action

El Coke July 12, 2000 08:18AM

Re: Slack Action

Hoss July 12, 2000 08:57AM

Re: Slack Action

F.B. July 12, 2000 10:22AM

Crestfallen

El Coke July 12, 2000 11:08AM

Lateral movement.

EL Coke July 12, 2000 11:02AM

What? Concrete Floors?

Mike Trent July 12, 2000 05:30PM

Re: Train Handling

Rick July 11, 2000 09:30PM



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