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6-ET and "mountain cocks".

July 10, 2000 08:48AM
Rick , to answer your question : Generally you do not have to "bail" the independent air if you have the brake handle in the "release" position(The "holding" position will retain the locomotive airbrakes), but engineers bail off the independent compulsively as this is a good habit to get into. Though the No.6 stand(what K-class engines have)is designed to automatically set engine brakes when an application is made ,it supposed to release them only in the "release" position , so bailing off the tender brake or retaining it is the engineers discretion , depending on how much braking power he needs .
No.6 brake stands have a maze of tiny passages cast in them and some dirt could cause the engine brakes to set even in the "release" position . In the 1940s the larger mainline engines (K-28s ,K-36s ,K-37s)had the "e-t" feature added , which eliminated the need for a triple valve and retainer on the engine A different triple valve (distributing valve) was mounted under the cab ..Part of the new feature was the "mountain cock" which allowed the engineer to cut in or cut out the driver brakes . Driver brakes were used mainly in switching ,running light ,and to assist in controlling short ,heavy trains .The engine brakes are not supposed to be used in downhill running with a train ,and are supposed to be cut out . It is believed that using the driver brake rigidizes the drivers ,and some believe this may have caused some derailments .I have used the engine brake with hard-to-control trains , but only in straightaways ,cutting them out with the mountain cock on curves , that naturally slow a train down anyway . Experienced engineers cut the driver brakes in when spotting a train at a water tank or platform . Hope that is an intelligible answer .
Subject Author Posted

Train Handling

Rick July 09, 2000 08:57PM

Re: Train Handling

Rick Steele July 10, 2000 08:21AM

6-ET and "mountain cocks".

El Coke July 10, 2000 08:48AM

Overheating Tires on the D&S

Herb Kelsey July 10, 2000 11:37AM

Not the tires ,Herb

El Coke July 10, 2000 03:01PM

Re: Not the tires ,Herb

Herb Kelsey July 10, 2000 05:00PM

Straight Air on the D&S?

Brian Norden July 10, 2000 08:43PM

D&S and WSLCo.dual air systems

El Coke July 11, 2000 09:11AM

Thanks for the explaination *NM*

Brian Norden July 11, 2000 10:14PM

Re: D&S and WSLCo.dual air systems

Ryan Scott July 12, 2000 06:43PM

Shortcycling

El Coke July 12, 2000 10:28PM

Re: Shortcycling

Ryan Scott July 13, 2000 06:16AM

Re: Shortcycling

Rick Steele July 13, 2000 08:07AM

Re: Shortcycling

Mike Ramsey July 13, 2000 06:46PM

Hall of Fame/hall of shame.

El Coke July 14, 2000 09:07PM

Re: Not the tires ,Herb

Michael Allen July 10, 2000 09:48PM

Downhill running

El Coke July 11, 2000 09:35AM

Re: Downhill running

Michael Allen July 11, 2000 01:28PM

Slack Action

Hoss July 11, 2000 10:03PM

Re: Slack Action

Brian Norden July 11, 2000 10:22PM

Re: Slack Action

El Coke July 12, 2000 08:18AM

Re: Slack Action

Hoss July 12, 2000 08:57AM

Re: Slack Action

F.B. July 12, 2000 10:22AM

Crestfallen

El Coke July 12, 2000 11:08AM

Lateral movement.

EL Coke July 12, 2000 11:02AM

What? Concrete Floors?

Mike Trent July 12, 2000 05:30PM

Re: Train Handling

Rick July 11, 2000 09:30PM



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