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July 11, 2000 09:35AM
Micheal ,there was dicussion regarding some of this on the Goat a week or so back .To reiterate , if one is running a train downgrade , the engineer oes not use the engine brakes at all ,unless the train is extremely difficult to operate . Tender brakes are routinely bailed off ,unless that extra braking power is needed . Rule of thumb : the longer the train , the better the braking power, because of more wheels to brake with . You also use far less air than with a short train .Many passenger cars ,because they were usually in short trains had the special quick-acting H triple valve ,but I would guess the "San Juan" was a very difficult train to take down Cumbres(the RPO's weighed 30 tons!) Running the helper light is another deal .The engineer switches back and forth between the drifting throttle and locomotive brakes .Yes ,if the driver brakes aere used excessively ,the tires could heat up to the point where they work loose .That you don't want.If you run the drifting throttle against the cylinders (the cutoff is pulled back to the "reverse" position), the backpressure prevents the cylinders from oiling properly ,so the engineer runs the danger of spalling the cylinders by excessive running "in the breeches" . The third valve on the tenders of older engines was the "dump valve" or emergency brake valve .After the installation of 6-et on the larger K-class engines ,the dump valve was moved to the back cab wall ,over the engineer . That is why it appears in a lot of old photos painted red .If you are doubleheading or in a mid-train helper ,this valve comes in very handy .I saw Earl Knoob use it once when we were mid-train and the piston came loose and broke the cylinder head ! He had the presence of mind to jump up and pull the air ,as the brake stand was cut out .
Subject Author Posted

Train Handling

Rick July 09, 2000 08:57PM

Re: Train Handling

Rick Steele July 10, 2000 08:21AM

6-ET and "mountain cocks".

El Coke July 10, 2000 08:48AM

Overheating Tires on the D&S

Herb Kelsey July 10, 2000 11:37AM

Not the tires ,Herb

El Coke July 10, 2000 03:01PM

Re: Not the tires ,Herb

Herb Kelsey July 10, 2000 05:00PM

Straight Air on the D&S?

Brian Norden July 10, 2000 08:43PM

D&S and WSLCo.dual air systems

El Coke July 11, 2000 09:11AM

Thanks for the explaination *NM*

Brian Norden July 11, 2000 10:14PM

Re: D&S and WSLCo.dual air systems

Ryan Scott July 12, 2000 06:43PM

Shortcycling

El Coke July 12, 2000 10:28PM

Re: Shortcycling

Ryan Scott July 13, 2000 06:16AM

Re: Shortcycling

Rick Steele July 13, 2000 08:07AM

Re: Shortcycling

Mike Ramsey July 13, 2000 06:46PM

Hall of Fame/hall of shame.

El Coke July 14, 2000 09:07PM

Re: Not the tires ,Herb

Michael Allen July 10, 2000 09:48PM

Downhill running

El Coke July 11, 2000 09:35AM

Re: Downhill running

Michael Allen July 11, 2000 01:28PM

Slack Action

Hoss July 11, 2000 10:03PM

Re: Slack Action

Brian Norden July 11, 2000 10:22PM

Re: Slack Action

El Coke July 12, 2000 08:18AM

Re: Slack Action

Hoss July 12, 2000 08:57AM

Re: Slack Action

F.B. July 12, 2000 10:22AM

Crestfallen

El Coke July 12, 2000 11:08AM

Lateral movement.

EL Coke July 12, 2000 11:02AM

What? Concrete Floors?

Mike Trent July 12, 2000 05:30PM

Re: Train Handling

Rick July 11, 2000 09:30PM



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