Re: The last set of CN Ry Foreign Funny Gauge
| February 18, 2018 10:29PM |
All three of the NFLD plows had what The Leslie Snow Plow co and ALCO called a "Fan" or "old style" wheel. Funny since the last ALCO built plow was NP #42 in 1939 and had this type of wheel ( attached picture). On the order sheet, railroads could pick the wheel type and diameter of the wheel.
The D&RGW OM, ON, C&S 99200 and RGS #2 all had a little different type of wheel. It is basically the same "fan" structure behind a "paddle" wheel. Rotaries #12-26 and 37 all had the "Paddle" wheel. The very poor pics of RGS #1 (35) look like it also has the Paddle but can't be absolutely sure. The D&RG 3-017-070 (36) which was built between the two RGS plows by Portland had a "scoop" wheel.
Leslie and ALCO called the wheel like on D&RGW OY, OO, 070 and the C&S 99201 a "scoop" wheel and "new improved" wheel in some some of their advertising. The Rio Grande must have wanted OY to have a more aggressive cut so removed teeth on the wheel and replaced with ice cutters.. The GN also did this even more drastically with some of their plows. (photo attached.)
The rotary wheels were patented by the Leslies so Bucyrus patented a wheel by J.L. Murphy and built three plows. ALCO bought the rights and used it on some of the Montreal built plows.
The Great Northern converted some of their "fans" to "paddles".They are more aggressive and looks like it is just a matter of changing the pivoting blades. The Canadian Pacific actually built new Scoop blades for some of their old Fan style plows.
Blades confirmed
Fan 29
Paddle 18
Scoop 76
Murphy 4
North America Rotaries built 155 (About 100 more built overseas)
Rotaries, Julls, Bros, Cyclone 170
Rotaries still surviving 47
Rotaries owned by RR 16
Rotaries operable as tourist 4
Bros operable and surviving 2
The D&RGW OM, ON, C&S 99200 and RGS #2 all had a little different type of wheel. It is basically the same "fan" structure behind a "paddle" wheel. Rotaries #12-26 and 37 all had the "Paddle" wheel. The very poor pics of RGS #1 (35) look like it also has the Paddle but can't be absolutely sure. The D&RG 3-017-070 (36) which was built between the two RGS plows by Portland had a "scoop" wheel.
Leslie and ALCO called the wheel like on D&RGW OY, OO, 070 and the C&S 99201 a "scoop" wheel and "new improved" wheel in some some of their advertising. The Rio Grande must have wanted OY to have a more aggressive cut so removed teeth on the wheel and replaced with ice cutters.. The GN also did this even more drastically with some of their plows. (photo attached.)
The rotary wheels were patented by the Leslies so Bucyrus patented a wheel by J.L. Murphy and built three plows. ALCO bought the rights and used it on some of the Montreal built plows.
The Great Northern converted some of their "fans" to "paddles".They are more aggressive and looks like it is just a matter of changing the pivoting blades. The Canadian Pacific actually built new Scoop blades for some of their old Fan style plows.
Blades confirmed
Fan 29
Paddle 18
Scoop 76
Murphy 4
North America Rotaries built 155 (About 100 more built overseas)
Rotaries, Julls, Bros, Cyclone 170
Rotaries still surviving 47
Rotaries owned by RR 16
Rotaries operable as tourist 4
Bros operable and surviving 2
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