Re: History - all OT now

Hi,

The throwing out of British customs was not revolutionary but evolutionary. The time from the 1770s to the 1820s would be about right for the change.

As far as Dutch customs in the Hudson River Valley, Circa 1996 I recall a group of activists wanting Fishkyll, NY to change its name from something anti-animal to something else. "kyll" in Dutch is something like water or stream.

Sinter Klaas was brought by the Dutch and celibrated in New Amsterdam in the 1600s.

from Wikipedia

"New Amsterdam (Dutch: Nieuw-Amsterdam) was a 17th-century Dutch settlement established at the southern tip of Manhattan Island, which served as the seat of the colonial government in New Netherland territory. It was renamed New York on September 8, 1664, in honor of the then Duke of York (later James II of England) after it was traded to the English along with the rest of the Dutch colony in exchange for control of the Spice Islands."

"In 1620 the Pilgrims attempted to sail to the Hudson River from England. However, the Mayflower reached Cape Cod (now part of Massachusetts) on November 9, 1620, after a voyage of 64 days.[6] For a variety of reasons, primarily a shortage of supplies, the Mayflower could not proceed to the Hudson River and the colonists decided to settle somewhere on or near Cape Cod.[6]"

Our Santa Claus is much closer to Sinter Klaas than anything else. Oddly enough, ketchup (the tomato based condomint) is a result of the Dutch-English trade.

It is also interesting that "Soy Sauce" in Dutch is spelled ketjap.

My father was a mixture of Dutch and Chinese (Born in the Dutch East Indies and my Mom (Born in Pennsylvania) researched the Dutch history a lot and taught it to my sister and me.

As with anything in the Melting Pot, nothing is ever JUST from one source or another.

If I am in error (I often am), please feel free to say so and why. It is how we learn - making mistakes.

Doug vV



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