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Re: Money grubbers?

November 06, 2001 09:27AM
Thank You Bob,
Mark, unfortunately, represents the attitudes of most railfans. That is if it weren't for the unions, the RGS would still be here, the San Juan would still be running, the C&S would still ply along South Park.
The figures show that nothing could be further from the truth. But... Too many foamers read press releases written by the railroads themselves trying to rationalize an unpopular decision. These management wannabee types read the garbage put out from offices in Omaha, Denver, St. Paul, Fort Worth or wherever and swallow it hook, line and sinker. The most outrageous are the type that read the "(RR initials) says that because they pay their Engineers and Trainmen in excess of $40.00 per hour..." and it makes us people who really move the trains look like a greedy bunch of SOB's. Well, after 23 years on the UP, it just ain't so. I would like to see that $40 per hour that these guys squalk about. What they DON'T say is that most of the "hourly" wages they talk about are hidden in Railroad Retirement matching funds, Hospital and Medical Insurance for us and our families, FELA payouts and a myriad of other costs, including the overpaid people in "Human Resources" (aka Personnel).
What a Foamer like Mark doesn't see is the fact that by age 50 most Railroad employees have bad backs, kidney problems, bad knees and hips, arthritis, partial deafness and lung problems (from diesel smoke, various commodities, etc.)from working around the Railroad and the type of work that it is. This is not to mention the broken families, Sleep Apnia from no schedules, Fatigue the leads to accidents and in some cases hospitalization for the effects of this lifestyle. And all this for a take home pay of less than $20.00 per hour. Sounds like a lot until you compare it with the Silicon Valley, Airline Pilots, Truck Drivers, UPS drivers, the US Post Office, etc. etc.
Yes, we're a greedy bunch of bastards and we are responsible for all that is bad with the railroad industry today. I personally signed off on Dick Davidson's $10 million dollar salary. Not to mention the wages and perks of all of the "Officials" who make their wages from my labor. Just remember one thing, Railroading may be fun on a Sunday afternoon, but there is a damn good reason why people get paid for it.
Or maybe foamers like him haven't stopped to think that maybe Railroaders, inspired by the obscene salaries of management, just want their piece of the pie. Or maybe, just maybe, they want to give their families a decent life or leave them with some financial security before the job kills them.
It is a job, and a tough one.
You have to love the job to stay there because the money sure isn't worth it any more.
Rick Steele
Proud member:
UTU local 446
BLE Div. 103
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Colorado's latest steamer

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Mark Stoeckel November 01, 2001 12:53PM

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Mark Cosson November 01, 2001 01:21PM

Geogetown / WP&Y #40

RC Farewell November 01, 2001 03:53PM

Re: Colorado's latest steamer

Les Clark November 01, 2001 04:19PM

Re: #40

Brian Norden November 01, 2001 07:28PM

69s fate

Steve Peck November 02, 2001 08:23AM

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Ron Welch November 02, 2001 08:53AM

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Mark Cosson November 02, 2001 09:13AM

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Steve Peck November 02, 2001 10:07AM

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Mark Cosson November 02, 2001 11:34AM

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Steve Peck November 02, 2001 12:34PM

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Tom Stewart November 02, 2001 11:36AM

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Mark Stoeckel November 02, 2001 01:53PM

Re: Colorado's latest steamer

Tom Stewart November 02, 2001 03:25PM

Money grubbers?

Bob Yarger November 03, 2001 06:27AM

Re: Money grubbers?

John McDermott November 03, 2001 11:02PM

Yes, they do smile a lot!

Bruce PRyor November 04, 2001 06:42AM

Thank you

Brian Norden November 04, 2001 10:46PM

Re: Money grubbers?

Rick Steele November 06, 2001 09:27AM

Re: $40 an hour

Richb November 06, 2001 10:15AM

Re: $40 an hour

Mark Cosson November 06, 2001 03:28PM

Re: $40 an hour

John McDermott November 06, 2001 11:01PM

Don't get me started...

El Coke November 07, 2001 07:33AM

Re: Don't get me started...

Bob Keller November 07, 2001 05:46PM

Railroad retirement

El Coke November 08, 2001 07:06AM

Re: Railroad retirement DO WHAT?!?

RD Mercer November 08, 2001 07:40AM

Re: Railroad retirement DO WHAT?!?

John McDermott November 08, 2001 08:56AM

Re: Railroad retirement DO WHAT?!?

John McDermott November 08, 2001 09:13AM

WHERE YOU BEEN??

El Coke November 08, 2001 06:18PM

Re: Don't get me started...

Bob Keller November 08, 2001 04:34PM

Short answer

El Coke November 08, 2001 06:10PM

Re: Short answer

Earl November 08, 2001 06:53PM

RRTA's departure

El Coke November 09, 2001 10:50PM

Re: Don't get me started...

John McDermott November 08, 2001 07:47PM

"Are you talkin' to me?" - Robert deNiro,

Sarducci November 08, 2001 08:40PM

Re: "Are you talkin' to me?" - Robert deNiro,

John McDermott November 08, 2001 10:13PM

What about the cars at the Stuhr?

Grant Houston November 02, 2001 12:00PM

Re: What about the cars at the Stuhr?

Greg Mathis November 03, 2001 10:11PM

Thanks

Grant Houston November 04, 2001 09:59AM

Re: What about the cars at the Stuhr?

Dick Ikenberry November 04, 2001 08:10AM

Re: What about the cars at the Stuhr?

Greg Mathis November 04, 2001 08:16PM

Re: Colorado's latest steamer

Dick November 08, 2001 08:49AM

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Fred T November 08, 2001 09:24AM

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Steve Peck November 08, 2001 01:30PM

Re: Colorado's latest steamer

John McDermott November 08, 2001 07:51PM

Double Whoopie...

Rick Steele November 09, 2001 07:59AM

Stuffed and Mounted and Rotten *NM*

Herb Kelsey November 10, 2001 05:43PM

Ditto *NM*

Grant Houston November 11, 2001 10:55AM



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