Re: Gramps Tank Cars

SR
I am probably sending this to the wrong person in the chain but I wanted to get a correction onto the chain before I got flogged.
I looked up the data that I have in Sloan's book concerning the Gramps cars. I was only sort of right about some of what I posted earlier.
If we restrict ourselves to the Gramps cars only then this is the deal:
The cars were converted VanDyke cars "in the late 1930's" (since the Gramps pipeline went in I think in 1936 or 37, I think that would be a good date to assume) and were equipped with Andrews trucks "borrowed" from 5900 series 34 ft stock cars. In late 1939 the railroad decided tha tank cars needed 30 ton cast steel trucks instead and ordered such. Upon receipt the stock cars were brought in and the Andrews trucks swapped back to the stock cars and the new cast steel one piece trucks placed on the tank cars. The tank cars were not taken out of service untol 1965 so their trucks could not have gone to the 6500 series flats which were converted from standard gauge in 1940,42,43 and 44, although I think they are the same trucks. In the late 1940's a number of other frameless cars were converted for use in hauling petroleum products by the railroad and then converted back to standard gauge. I think I even read somewhere that there was a proposal to ship Chama oil by narrow gauge to Alamose, switch trucks on the loaded cars to standard gauge and run them through to Denver much like the EBT did with hauling standard gauge cars on their line.
Hope this doesn't confuse the issue.
Frank