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Too much $$!

August 01, 2005 06:58PM
Greg and Al are right, too many people spoil the experience but you can't charge $500 - $600 for a one day steam trip. Goodheart did it on the 3751 Grand Canyon trip and sold out, because we all knew it was a once in a lifetime deal. Most of the people who would pay for a C&TS charter have already done it two or three times before and won't pay a scarcity premium.
Also, there is a quality factor. I would have to think long and hard about spending the money to fly to Colorado, rent a car, spend several nights in a motel and on top of that pay $500 - $1000 for the charter. I'd do it for a trip organized by John Craft, or Greg Scholl, or Dave Gross, because I know I would get my money's worth. It's unlikely I would do it for anyone else, unless they came very highly recommended by people I trust.
I won't go into the Commission's pricing, because the C&TS has got to be an expensive RR to operate, but a number of other tourist roads charge under $5,000 for a full day. $10,000 for one engine and train is mainline pricing and is probably a bit high for the C&TS. The second (and third) engine(s) ought to cost about half that.
I don't think you will see any more Craft type trips on the C&TS, unless the Commission decides to fine tune their pricing structure. Even then, I think it's a shrinking market.
Michael Allen
Subject Author Posted

Successful Steam Excursion on the C&TSRR?????

roger hogan August 01, 2005 02:25PM

Re: Successful Steam Excursion on the C&TSRR????? *LINK*

Greg Scholl August 01, 2005 03:10PM

Re: Successful Steam Excursion on C&TS: Timing! *LINK*

Russ Sperry August 01, 2005 04:02PM

I am sure Greg is right BUT??

roger hogan August 01, 2005 05:57PM

Re: I am sure Greg is right BUT??

Al Patterson August 01, 2005 06:16PM

Re: I am sure Greg is right BUT??

Greg Scholl August 01, 2005 06:39PM

Good information

roger hogan August 01, 2005 10:07PM

Re: Good information

Greg Scholl August 02, 2005 06:20AM

Re: Good information

RBrinton August 02, 2005 07:17AM

Monsoon West *PIC*

John West August 02, 2005 12:50PM

Re: Monsoon West

Greg Scholl August 02, 2005 01:32PM

Monsoon season is good...

Brian Shoup August 02, 2005 09:54PM

Greg nailed it

roger hogan August 03, 2005 08:56PM

Re: Greg nailed it

Yo Dude August 04, 2005 06:51AM

My Charter

roger hogan August 04, 2005 08:30AM

Too much $$!

Michael Allen August 01, 2005 06:58PM

Re: defining success

John Craft August 02, 2005 06:30AM

Re: defining success

rick b August 02, 2005 12:01PM

Re: defining success *LINK*

John West August 02, 2005 12:30PM

Re: defining success

Greg Scholl August 02, 2005 01:35PM

Re: defining success

Michael Allen August 02, 2005 06:36PM

Plandampf

John West August 02, 2005 07:17PM

Re: defining success

Greg Scholl August 03, 2005 06:17AM

Re: defining success

RichB August 03, 2005 07:30AM

And that is a successful attitude *NM*

Philip Walters August 03, 2005 08:58AM

Re: defining success

Al Patterson August 03, 2005 01:15PM



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