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John West

July 30, 2005 11:36PM

What is going on at UP regarding their logo and trademarks, etc., is just another example of lawyers gone beserk and management's reluctance to tell them to buzz off. This is not an unusual management versus lawyer kind of issue. Corporations do have to guard their trademarks,and the legal issues are complex. If a corporation fails to defend their trademark/logo they risk loosing it to the public domain. But railroads don't have to be as heavy handed as UP as been. As far as I can figure out what is going on at UP, it is a classic case of the lawyers taking charge. Lawyers and the law are important, but at some point some one with some business sense needs to reign them in, there are trade offs with PR, etc. The folks at BNSF seem to have figured out those trade offs pretty well. Apparently UP's instituational arrogance makes this difficult for them to accept.
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UP harrassing hobbyists , may affect D&RGW too! LINK	Russ Sperry	July 30, 2005 11:10PM
Lawyers left to their own devices	John West	July 30, 2005 11:36PM
Re: LIARS left to their own devices	Russ Sperry	July 31, 2005 12:59AM
Re: LIARS left to their own devices	John West	July 31, 2005 01:53AM
Re: LIARS left to their own devices	Russ Sperry	July 31, 2005 02:17PM
Re: LIARS left to their own devices	Daniel Maxwell	July 31, 2005 03:25PM
Re: LIARS left to their own devices	Legal Eagle	August 01, 2005 12:52PM
97.3% of them give nice guys like you a bad name! NM	Russ Sperry	August 01, 2005 02:04PM
Re: UP harrassing hobbyists , may affect D&RGW too	Jerry Halbert	July 31, 2005 01:42AM
Re: UP harrassing hobbyists , may affect D&RGW too	Daniel Maxwell	July 31, 2005 01:58PM
Re: UP harrassing hobbyists , may affect D&RGW too	Rick Steele	July 31, 2005 05:34AM
New Product Idea.....	El Poppason	July 31, 2005 07:28AM
UP the Public Trough	Chris Callaway	July 31, 2005 07:39AM
Re: UP the Public Trough	Anon	July 31, 2005 08:57AM
Re: UP the Public Trough	Don Richter	July 31, 2005 10:36AM
Re: UP the Public Trough	Tim Schreiner	July 31, 2005 10:51AM
Re: UP the Public Trough	Don Richter	July 31, 2005 10:57AM
Re: UP the Public Trough	Gavin Hamilton	July 31, 2005 12:02PM
GM & Boeing join the Axis of Evil!	Michael Allen	July 31, 2005 06:28PM
What is an 9 letter word for "evil"?	Don Richter	August 01, 2005 09:29AM
Re: 6-letter word for 'Scumbag': Lawyer NM	Russ Sperry	August 01, 2005 12:08PM
Re: Cara's new brand - UP Cigarettes? Or Condoms?	Russ Sperry	August 01, 2005 02:16PM
... or maybe Saw Palmetto: "You Pee, too" ... NM	Russ Sperry	August 01, 2005 06:13PM
Re: UP the Public Trough	Mike Stillwell	August 01, 2005 09:17AM
Re: UP the Public Trough	John Kyler	August 01, 2005 10:27AM
Re: UP's 140-year Legacy of Greed	Russ Sperry	August 01, 2005 02:00PM
Re: UP harrassing hobbyists , may affect D&RGW too	Russ Sperry	July 31, 2005 02:09PM
Re: UP harrassing hobbyists , may affect D&RGW too	Trevor Hartford	July 31, 2005 04:01PM
Re: UP harrassing hobbyists , may affect D&RGW too	Jim Burrill	July 31, 2005 07:33AM
Re: UP harrassing hobbyists , may affect D&RGW too	James J. Genat	July 31, 2005 09:09AM
UP management performance PIC	John West	July 31, 2005 02:47PM
Re: UP management performance	Ron Keagle	July 31, 2005 03:36PM
Too Many Lawyers on Staff....	Mike Trent	July 31, 2005 09:09PM
Re: UP management performance	Don Richter	August 01, 2005 10:03AM
Re: UP (Miss-) Management - Cartoonist Needed	Russ Sperry	August 01, 2005 12:26PM
Re: UP (Miss-) Management - Cartoonist Needed	Russ Sperry	August 01, 2005 06:27PM
Cartoonist Needed: U.P. Joe & the Sheep of Wyoming PIC	Russ Sperry	August 01, 2005 08:30PM
So that's where....	Don Richter	August 02, 2005 09:24AM
Re: So that's where....	Gavin Hamilton	August 02, 2005 01:55PM
Re: Sheep of Wyoming - The Rest of the Story ...	Russ Sperry	August 02, 2005 02:06PM
Re UP mgmt: Picture = 1000 words. Thanks, John! NM	Russ Sperry	August 01, 2005 12:11PM
You Can't Spell StUPid without UP!	Herb Kelsey	August 02, 2005 10:42AM
Re: You Can't Spell StUPid without UP!	John West	August 04, 2005 11:51AM

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