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TN Pass & More NG Helpers

October 17, 2000 08:52AM
I believe the train you are referring to is picking up debris and doing general clean-up on the Tenn Pass line, for EPA reasons. Not much hope of the line reopening soon from what I hear.
Les Jarrett and I did a nice 5-day stint on the line after doing the C&TS in May 1997 and have a pretty decent video called "Tennessee Pass & The Royal Gorge Route" 10 unit coal train was pretty impressive as was other freight traffic.
Back to Narrow Gauge...Another factor on the Antonito to Cumbres side of the line was having water tanks servicable. Earl Knoob told me about this when I was getting info for "Rio Grande Steam Freights" in 1992. The John Craft trips that year had lower tonage ratings since Lava tank was out of service. We did three runbys on the last day(west of Antonito, MP 289, and Whiplash Curve), and John told we later we were nearly dry in the tenders of the 497 and 484 when we reached Sublette. As I remember the 497 watered immediately, then backed up and we did a runby at Sublette, then 484(The Mid-train helper) took water. That was some train, and it even included several(6 if I remember correctly) loaded cars of ballast(thats right ballast)in the wooden dump gons. The following May several of these were dumped at State line curve during the Snow clearing expedition along the mushy roadbed!
So, when was Lava tank taken out of service. I know the tank burned during C&TS times, but did it work before that okay, and did D&RGW trains regularly use this tank out of Antonito in the mid-late 60's? More to ponder on this interesting topic. I hope Mr Comee is soaking this up??!!
Steamingly,
Greg Scholl
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Helper Engines Placement

Towne Comee October 15, 2000 09:51AM

Re: Helper Engines Placement

Greg Scholl October 15, 2000 10:31AM

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Bob October 15, 2000 11:32AM

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Kevin Williams October 15, 2000 12:43PM

Charter Freights

John West October 15, 2000 03:15PM

Re: Helper Engines Placement

Brian Norden October 15, 2000 09:28PM

UP too!

Keith Hayes October 16, 2000 10:45PM

TN Pass & More NG Helpers

Greg Scholl October 17, 2000 08:52AM

Re: UP too!

Les Clark October 17, 2000 03:42PM

Re: Helper Engines Placement

John West October 15, 2000 10:15PM

Re: Helper Engines Placement

J. Johnson October 16, 2000 04:59AM

Steel Framed Cars

Mike Trent October 16, 2000 01:22PM

Mixing steel and wooden frames

John West October 17, 2000 05:48AM

Interesting. Thanks, John *NM*

Mike Trent October 17, 2000 10:28AM

Additional Helper stuff

Greg Scholl October 16, 2000 07:01AM

More perusing of timetables

John West October 16, 2000 10:40AM

Double Heading up Marshall Pass?

Kevin Cook October 17, 2000 12:41PM

Re: Double Heading up Marshall Pass?

John West October 17, 2000 01:23PM

Now that you mention it...

Kevin Cook October 17, 2000 01:31PM

busted knuckles

keith hayes October 17, 2000 09:47PM

Late 60's arrangements

Josh McNeal October 18, 2000 12:26PM

Re: busted knuckles

Don Richter October 18, 2000 12:53PM

More Placement Detail

John Craft October 16, 2000 01:20PM

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Tom Stewart October 16, 2000 01:57PM



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