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Re: re-engineer a 383 to get over 20 mpg,

Yosemite Sam
March 28, 2005 07:06PM
My 5000 pound 63 chevy belair with a 283 got 22 mpg, was large enough for my girl friend and myself to stretch out across the front seat with the doors closed. Could haul 6 adults comfortably 8 or 9 in a pinch and had enough room for massive amounts of luggage in the trunk.
The difference....no massive amounts of frills. The AC only worked when I turned it on. Many of todays vehicles run the AC pump all of the time. the engine/drive train was simple...but had enough punch to run pretty well.
My geo metro gets 40-45 mpg, but is tiny. I only drive it for the mileage.
As far as oil/energy goes. There is a large amount of oil in the world. There is a large demand for it. It makes no sense for the oil industry to build more refineries, because they don't get any return from the investment. If you build more refineries, the price will dip. leave them alone and the price is kept up making the product more profitable.
The origin of hydrocarbons in the crust has been debated for a while. there is a school of thought that its existance is a remnant of the hydrocarbons that were present when the earth formed. The fossil fuel idea is tough to prove when there isn't a single place on the earth known to be replenishing the supply. If it is indeed a result of biological processes, it makes sense that that process, or a vestage of it should exist somewhere.
The price is close to the break even point where some inventors/crackpots will come up with alternatives. The idea that electrolysis is the only way to produce H2 is uninformed. There are several ways to produce it some with catylists that enable H2 to be liberated from water just simply by heating it hot enough. For wind generation, @#$%&'s will eventually cave when their lights don't work or they can no longer afford them.
Invest in farm land now and buy property in western Kansas, Oklahoma, Texas, Nebraska where the wind blows and blows and start your own wind farms
My $0.02 worth
SAM
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Denver Post on I 70

JJTemplin March 21, 2005 12:10PM

Re: Denver Post on I 70

Linn W. Moedinger March 23, 2005 06:26AM

Amen and ........

JJTemplin March 23, 2005 07:01PM

Railroad, yes

Rodger Polley March 23, 2005 10:49PM

Re: Railroad, yes - No Gas, No Traffic

Russ Sperry March 26, 2005 01:56AM

Re: Railroad, yes - No Gas, No Traffic

WP&Ymike March 26, 2005 03:26AM

Re: Gas Price

Tim March 26, 2005 11:15AM

Re: Gas Price

WP&Ymike March 26, 2005 12:03PM

Re: Railroad, yes - No Gas, No Traffic

Russ Sperry March 27, 2005 10:40PM

Like I said, fire up the still.....

Festus March 28, 2005 09:27AM

Re: Like I said, fire up the still.....

WP&Ymike March 28, 2005 01:23PM

Space aliens... *NM*

Don Richter March 28, 2005 02:10PM

Re: Like I said, fire up the still.....

Festus March 28, 2005 02:47PM

you have no evidence eh?

WP&Ymike March 28, 2005 03:39PM

Re: you have no evidence eh?

Festus March 29, 2005 08:57AM

You forgot King COAL.....

JJTemplin March 29, 2005 01:42PM

Re: You forgot King COAL..... *LINK*

Gavin Hamilton March 29, 2005 02:42PM

Re: you have no evidence eh?

KWilcomb March 29, 2005 06:27PM

Re: you have no evidence eh?

Festus March 30, 2005 10:47AM

The Endless Supply of Oil Fairy Tales

WP&Ymike March 28, 2005 02:26PM

Railroads WIN!!!!!!

Rodger Polley March 30, 2005 10:18PM

Re: The Endless Supply of Oil Fairy Tales

Russ Sperry April 01, 2005 11:45PM

Re: The Endless Supply of Oil Fairy Tales

Don Richter April 02, 2005 06:23PM

Better fire up th' still! *NM*

Festus March 28, 2005 08:26AM

Re: Better fire up th' still!

WP&Ymike March 28, 2005 01:18PM

Re: Better fire up th' still!

South Park March 28, 2005 03:12PM

re-engineer a 383 to get over 20 mpg,

WP&Ymike March 28, 2005 03:31PM

Re: re-engineer a 383 to get over 20 mpg,

Yosemite Sam March 28, 2005 07:06PM

Re: re-engineer a 383 to get over 20 mpg,

South Park March 29, 2005 12:21AM

Re: re-engineer a 383 to get over 20 mpg,

WP&Ymike March 29, 2005 12:35AM

Re: re-engineer a 383 to get over 20 mpg,

Gavin Hamilton March 29, 2005 06:09AM

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Ed Stabler March 29, 2005 06:58AM

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Craig LeVay March 29, 2005 07:30AM

Re: re-engineer a 383 to get over 20 mpg,

Gavin Hamilton March 29, 2005 08:06AM

Re: re-engineer a 383 to get over 20 mpg,

Jeff A. March 29, 2005 08:42AM

Re: re-engineer a 383 to get over 20 mpg,

J.B.Bane March 29, 2005 11:26AM

Re: re-engineer a 383 to get over 20 mpg,

Gavin Hamilton March 29, 2005 02:39PM

Re: re-engineer a 383 to get over 20 mpg,

John Cole March 29, 2005 03:03PM

Re: re-engineer a 383 to get over 20 mpg,

Gavin Hamilton March 29, 2005 03:38PM

Amen to that.

Festus March 29, 2005 08:24AM

Re: Railroad, yes - No Gas, No Traffic

Dick March 27, 2005 09:31AM

No Gas, Job security

WP&Ymike March 27, 2005 11:57AM

Re: No Gas, Job security

Dick March 27, 2005 12:00PM

Re: No Gas, Job security *LINK*

Craig LeVay March 27, 2005 11:16PM

Re: No Gas, Job security

Don Richter March 28, 2005 08:11AM

Re: No Gas, Job security

RAWHIDE March 28, 2005 10:04AM

Re: No Gas, What about Lube Oil?

Ted Miles March 28, 2005 10:47AM

Re: No Gas, What about Lube Oil?

Craig LeVay March 28, 2005 01:55PM

Jimmy Carter

Bob Yarger March 29, 2005 09:24AM

Re: Jimmy Carter

Herb Kelsey March 29, 2005 04:35PM

A funny 1970s conversation

El Coke March 30, 2005 10:04AM

Flat Earthers

Herb Kelsey March 30, 2005 05:37PM

Re: Jimmy Carter

Russ Sperry April 02, 2005 01:08AM

Re: No Gas, What about Lube Oil?

Rodger Polley March 30, 2005 10:51PM

Time for a paradigm shift

El Coke April 03, 2005 10:36AM

Re: Time for a paradigm shift

Al Patterson April 03, 2005 10:52AM

Re: Time for a paradigm shift

Ed Stabler April 03, 2005 12:08PM

Re: Time for a paradigm shift *PIC*

WP&Ymike April 03, 2005 12:48PM

Re: Time for a paradigm shift

John McNamara April 03, 2005 02:54PM

Re: Time for a paradigm shift

South Park April 03, 2005 03:47PM

Frightening facts

El Coke April 03, 2005 04:11PM

Re: Frightening facts

WP&Ymike April 03, 2005 05:52PM

Re: Time for a paradigm shift

Greg Scholl April 03, 2005 06:56PM

Re: Time for a paradigm shift

WP&Ymike April 03, 2005 07:49PM

Re: Time for a paradigm shift

WP&Ymike April 03, 2005 12:22PM

Re: Time for a paradigm shift

KWilcomb April 03, 2005 11:22PM

Re: Time for a paradigm shift

WP&Ymike April 03, 2005 11:43PM

Re: Time for a paradigm shift

KWilcomb April 03, 2005 11:54PM

Re: Time for a paradigm shift

WP&Ymike April 04, 2005 12:19AM

Re: Noah, the Paradigm Shifter

Russ Sperry April 04, 2005 03:18AM

Re: Noah, the Paradigm Shifter

KWilcomb April 04, 2005 12:33PM

Re: Noah, the Paradigm Shifter

eric bracher April 04, 2005 01:56PM

Re: Noah, the Paradigm Shifter

Russ Sperry April 04, 2005 06:56PM

Stop and think

El Coke April 04, 2005 12:24PM

Re: Stop and think

KWilcomb April 04, 2005 12:35PM

You don't get it. *NM*

El Coke April 04, 2005 10:59PM

(Message Deleted by Poster)

Russ Sperry April 04, 2005 11:42PM

Re: Stop and think

Don Richter April 05, 2005 07:51AM

Re: Stop and think (Revised Post)

Russ Sperry April 05, 2005 10:20PM

Re: Time for a paradigm shift

Hobosteve April 04, 2005 06:15AM

Re: Time for a paradigm shift

steve stockham April 04, 2005 07:22PM

Re: Time for a paradigm shift

Jeff A. April 05, 2005 08:10AM

Re: Time for a paradigm shift

Skonk April 05, 2005 05:30PM

4.2 planets for me *NM*

El Coke April 06, 2005 12:19PM

Re: A Little Oil Humor

Skonk April 05, 2005 05:15PM

Re: A Little Oil Humor

Chile John April 06, 2005 01:36PM

Re: A Little Oil Humor

Hoss - The Wideload April 06, 2005 08:20PM

Re: A Little Oil left... *PIC*

WP&Ymike April 06, 2005 09:27PM

Fascinating graph !.

El Coke April 07, 2005 08:35AM

Re: Fascinating graph !.

WP&Ymike April 07, 2005 01:21PM

Disappointing solar sales. Steam anyone?

El Coke April 07, 2005 03:34PM

Re: Disappointing solar sales. Steam anyone?

steve stockham April 07, 2005 06:45PM

Petroleum is not the future

El Coke April 07, 2005 10:44PM

Re: Petroleum is not the future

steve stockham April 08, 2005 07:03AM

Re: Petroleum is not the future-Steam Program

Andy Roth April 08, 2005 07:18AM

Markets and: petroleum's future

El Coke April 08, 2005 10:10AM

Re: Disappointing solar sales. Steam anyone?

Hobosteve April 08, 2005 02:14AM

Re: A Little Oil left ... "Noah" Gas

Russ Sperry April 09, 2005 09:39PM

Re: A Little Oil left ... "Noah" Gas

WP&Ymike April 10, 2005 01:07AM

Oil's well that ends well ...

Russ Sperry April 07, 2005 01:33AM

Re: Oil's well that ends well ...

Ed Stabler April 07, 2005 05:55AM

That should be rabbi...

Ed Stabler April 07, 2005 05:57AM

Wye dew ewe knead a spill checquer? *NM*

Russ Sperry April 07, 2005 09:50AM

even darker..........

Rodger Polley April 06, 2005 08:11PM

Re: even darker ... multiNAZIonal

Russ Sperry April 07, 2005 12:15AM

Re: even darker ... multiNAZIonal

Karell Reader April 07, 2005 09:13AM

Fraternity of the power elites.

El Coke April 07, 2005 03:21PM

I am somewhat more hopeful....

El Coke April 07, 2005 08:11AM

Re: Railroad, yes - No Gas, No Traffic

Rodger Polley March 30, 2005 10:21PM



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