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Re: Roaring Camp Locomotive #5 Climax C/N 1692 Under Rehab

July 19, 2020 12:34AM
linkthebutler Wrote:
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> First
> Paul and the foundation, thank you for the efforts
> to restore that locomotive. I see your first steps
> already last year on your internet page.
>
> BUT
> The lack of authentic including that discussion
> here drives me let say a little crazy...
>
> The restoration would be almost a completely new
> build,
> new trucks
> new not authentic brakes
> replacing frame parts
> new cab
> new cistern
> wrong boiler 45 instead 50
> ....
>
> That will take years depending on volunteers and
> lot of money.
>
> And at the end we will have some Climax style
> locomotive who has nothing to do with 1692.
>
> While doing all that why not make it original, yes
> a B-50 Climax std. gauge?
> original trucks regauge to std.
> all not available pattern you can copy the White
> Mountain Central RR B-50 parts, which is
> identical.
>
> My biggest concern is the smaller boiler. Yes you
> can enlarge the firebox and make the steam lines
> fitting.
> But that boiler is 105 years old with no FRA
> certification and maybe also no ultrasound
> inspection right now.
> Are you sure remodelling and FRA compliance for
> hat boiler is cheaper then a new one with original
> size?
>
> White Mountain Central also purchased a new boiler
> in 2005 who fit perfectly
> [whitemountaincentralrr.com]
> ives/steam-loco-6/
> i am pretty sure the manufacturer can make another
> copy too.
>
> The story about no place for storage and
> maintenance in felton...
> To my knowledge Roaring Camp uses the old loading
> shed of the former lumber co. on the other side of
> the tracks? Standard gauge including a switch and
> track.
> Why not store it there?
> And if finished in 10 or 15 years run it on
> certain holidays on the beach train.
>
> Again thank you so much for the efforts, but I
> myself call me a rivet counter and hardcore
> historian.
> For me the only way to restore a steam locomotive
> is to manufacturers specs made for the first
> owner.
> Everything rebuild over the times by following
> owners has nothing to do with the original intend
> between the order and manufacturing.


I agree with these sentiments. As much as I would love to see the Climax go up to Bear Mountain, it will be quite a while before we actually see it. In the meantime, I hope that the hypothetical lease, rebuild and operation of Rosa Ashby's West Side Three-Truck Shay No. 14 is still in the cards for Roaring Camp.
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