I like the way you think Russ. This is why I asked about how the coaches were being configured. The answer was for the older version passenger train. Couldn't the 168 still use some of the San Juan cars if they are generic enough? I bet 168 could only pull 2-3 cars anyway. If they had some version of a San Juan you have dual useage. Oh well, having whatever cars they do green again will be at least the authentic color. Swapping with the D&S would be a nice idea, but look what happened the last time that was tried--483 for 478!!!