yes bill that former rio grande car shop supervisor was right. the grande would not have had deck screws laying around, in the first place, to even be used on one of their car repairs. the gentleman was not popular with the 'friends' administrators who were running things at the time because he spoke up about how repairs were being done. however, he and a couple of other former d&rgw employees were a great resource for those of us that wanted to learn how to do car repair like it was done on the d&rgw. i am very lucky to have worked and learned from those guys who were very willing to teach us the trade.