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Re: C & S 1008 Update: New Frame Kit Completed and an answer and a question

December 06, 2015 03:49PM
First an answer then a question:
Pd3463 - We are hoping to bring 1008 to Colorado at some point and two railroads have shown interest. However, at this point we have a long way to go before the car will be track ready. Sorry it took so long to answer you.
Now the question:
Along with restoring the caboose we are trying to put together a history of the car. We are finding that there is very limited information available on South Park waycars and C&S caboose. We are looking for photos of this car as a South Park car, builder information, railroad records and any construction or shop drawings of this car. There is an interesting photo of C&S caboose 306 ( which became sister car 1005 ) in the narrow gauge pictorial on page 112 taken around 1903 showing a center cupola. We are pretty sure 1008 also hade a center cupola because it is shown with 1005 on a C&S folio page both with center cupola.
Another question is were the cars originally built as flat roof waycars? Studing the top plate of the body frame it looks as though the carline mortice pattern does not run the entire length of the car with a space in the center indicating that the car may have been built with a center coupla. There are a number of other clues which are common to only 1005 and 1008 that have lead us to speculate that both C&S 1005 and 1008 may not have originally been built for the D,SP&P but may have come from another Union Pacific owned narrow gauge line and assigned numbers to fill in the roster for possibly wrecked cars. The numbering sequence we have been able to find for C&S 1008 was:
DSP&P (Built 1885) 76 - DL&G (1894) 1514 - C&S (1899 ) 310 - C&S (1912 renumbered) 1008.
We have absolutely no documentation to back this up but the physical clues we have come across on the actual car have raised a number of questions.
I am currently preparing a paper with photos showing what the physical evidence is and readers may draw their own conclusions. Any records, photos or information which you might be able to provide would be gratefully appreciated. We are trying to develop a accurate, documented historic record for the preservation community and welcome your comments.
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Many thanks to the DSP&P Historical Society!

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