trainrider47 Wrote:
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> I've not had time to read all the comments in the
> freeloaders thread, but as one of the organizers
> of the charter, I'd like to make a few points.
>
> First, I fully support the Friends and understand
> that without them, no freight charter would be
> possible. After our 2014 flanger charter we made
> a $500 donation to the tank car bearing fund.
>
> This year, I was approached by 3 different
> individuals who asked about buying chaser passes
> and I told them that our organization does not
> sell chaser passes for liability reasons, but I
> suggested that they make a donation to the
> Friends. I don't know if they did or not.
>
> Second, it's a free country and a public road, so
> no thought has ever been given to "banning" anyone
> from photographing any of our charters. What we
> do hope for though is some consideration on the
> part of the non paying participants. Setting up at
> a photo runby location and not moving, if
> requested, is disrespectful and as Matthew has
> pointed out, if our charter had not been
> operating, there would not have been anything for
> them to photograph. That said, I asked a couple
> of people at Apache Crossing if they could move
> over a bit to allow people in the line to get
> their shots and they did so willingly. Courtesy
> is always appreciated.
>
> Third, I appreciate all that Roger has done for
> the railroad with his photography, but he needs to
> put a little more thought into his drone flying.
> After flying at low altitude directly in front of
> the photo line, he proceeded to hover forward of
> the photo line at an altitude that did keep his
> drone out of all but the widest angle shots, but
> the whirring of the drone was picked up by the
> mic's of anyone shooting video or recording sound.
> When the train is up close, it overrides the
> noise of the drone, but at a distance that is not
> the case. I understand Roger is still on a
> learning curve with his drone, so I hope he takes
> this to heart. Anyone else considering flying
> drones at or on charters should as well.
>
> Bottom line, enjoy watching and photographing a
> charter if you happen to be in the area, as did
> several British railfans who happened to stumble
> across the charter, but keep in mind, the people
> who paid to make it happen should be allowed to
> take their photographs without interference.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Michael Allen
Michael, You are right. My bad and I apologized. All I can say is I did not see them behind me, not a excuse but just a fact.
One suggestion you might consider is when your folks pick a spot look and make sure they are not going to be interfered with especially if others are there before they arrive. Just because they paid for a charter, they did not buy the public right away or the right to private property.
This is going to be a on going problem and it needs to be addressed by all sides of the issue.I have talked to Bush and other folks about this and all agree it is going to take a effort by all parties.
I am not saying the solution is first come first serve but that also needs to be considered. I packed up and moved numerous times because other folks showed up after I was set up.
Yes I did learn a lesson. I need to look 360 degrees around me before I hit the fly button.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/04/2015 04:21PM by Roger Hogan.
